How much snus is the equivalent of one cigarette

[jagmanss]

I saw this posted in a review over at SnusCentral for Thunder snus by Mr. UNZ

Quote " Strong Snus, Stark Snus, Sterk Snus: these are all Scandinavian snus's which are higher in nicotine than Regular snus. Until 2008, this almost always meant 11 mg/g. of nicotine instead of 8mg/g. of nicotine. Eight milligrams of nicotine is the equivalent of one cigarette absorbed orally instead of inhaled'. End Quote..

This has me wondering what you all think...How much snus is the equivalent of one cigarette? I thought i read on this forum on a thread I can't find at the moment awhile back that an 8mg portion of snus is absorbed within 15 min to a half hour after put in and assuming the amount of snus absorbed is about 30% to 40% of the portion and that that would equal about 3 cigaretts in an hour since a cigarette contains 1 mg of nicotine... It read something like that...

So my question is... Is it true that an Eight milligram portion of snus is the equivalent of one cigarette, with this logic the 4 mg portion would be equal to 1/2 cigarette so then What would be 11,12,15,16 mg portion be an equivalent of in cigarettes ?

[lxskllr]

I would assume you'd adjust your percentages with the nicotine amounts. That'll just give you a rough estimate. Actual nicotine absorption will vary due to tobacco type, and ph level. I don't use stark snus. I pretty much only use regular strength.

[CoderGuy]

I think I remember seeing a graph somewhere showing nic amounts and absorption rates between cigs and snus. Cigs had a spike in the beginning and then dropped off dramatically whereas snus was more steady but I don't remember the amounts (maybe someone else here remembers that graph).

I do know I used to smoke 2 packs per day. When I smoked I chain smoked but I could go the whole day at work without (but then I would smoke a pack after work). With snus I chain snus and leave it in for hours but after about 3 hours I start feeling like "I need a smoke" and I know it's time to change my potion.

[raptor]

A lot of nicotine in tobacco is combusted before reaching the lungs. Not sure on exact amounts.

Check this out: http://www.snuscentral.org/lars-erik...-nicotine.html

[snusjus]

A rough estimate is 15% of the nicotine from snus is absorbed. The actual number may fluctuate depending on pH level, physical manipulation, and nicotine level. While most cigarettes "deliver" about 1mg of nicotine, the number can be misleading, since most smokers don't smoke like testing "machines". I wouldn't be surprised if most smokers inhaled 2mg of nicotine per cigarette, regardless of whether it's "Full Flavor" or "Light". Here are some calculations based on my 15% of nicotine absorbed from snus:

8mg portion= 1.2mg absorbed
11mg portion= 1.65mg absorbed
16mg portion= 2.4mg absorbed
2 gram prilla of General Original Los= 2.4mg absorbed
2 gram prilla of General Ekstra Sterk Los= 3.9mg absorbed

[CoderGuy]

I think I remember seeing a graph somewhere showing nic amounts and absorption rates between cigs and snus. Cigs had a spike in the beginning and then dropped off dramatically whereas snus was more steady but I don't remember the amounts (maybe someone else here remembers that graph).

I do know I used to smoke 2 packs per day. When I smoked I chain smoked but I could go the whole day at work without (but then I would smoke a pack after work). With snus I chain snus and leave it in for hours but after about 3 hours I start feeling like "I need a smoke" and I know it's time to change my potion.

OK I found the article I was referring to:

http://snusauthority.com/blog/snus-e...my-experience/

[WickedKitchen]

I smoked a pack a day for 15 years.

I know some of that was due to habit rather than need for nic.

I've settled on about 8 portions/day and again some of that is out of habit rather than need for nic.

For some reason the nic stays in your blood longer when you take it orally so it would make sense that you use less.

[raptor]

It stays longer because of how prolonged nicotine release is. You're constantly exposed to the tobacco without consuming it (like in a cigarette), so nicotine absorbed over time would be like a shallow plateau. Even though cigarettes produce lower total amount nicotine, the lungs absorb it very quickly and it hits the brain as a massive nicotine spike, before quickly dying down.

I think ES portions are trying to replicate this cigarette nicotine spike by doubling their nicotine content compared to normal snus. It won't seem completely the same because nicotine from the mouth has to travel considerably longer before impacting the brain.

[SnusGuy]

It is also interesting to note that different nicotine delivery systems cause different plasma nicotine concentrations. The nicotine concentration in cigarettes peaks early on, whereas snus comes on slow and stays in your system longer.

Plasma nicotine chart

[snusgetter]

It is also interesting to note that different nicotine delivery systems cause different plasma nicotine concentrations. The nicotine concentration in cigarettes peaks early on, whereas snus comes on slow and stays in your system longer.

Plasma nicotine chart

At the one-hour mark, the 21mg is still at a lower level than a 2mg snus...
These are 24-hour patches. I wonder whereabouts they peak before nosediving?

[Darwin]

I think you have to go to Thunders which peak really quickly to even come close to the hyper-sharp nic spike delivered by a cig. I'm sure that's why sterks are so helpful to the new snuser who's trying to quit the sticks. After shedding some of the smoking habituation over the first few weeks backing down to regulars is a pattern seen by a lot of many users. I've seen that plasma nicotine chart before and it illustrates this phenom perfectly. The snus graph is a bit mysterious since it's labeled as "2 g Swedish snus". I don't know of any snus with that much tobacco in it nor do I know of a snus rated at only 2mg of nic. Puzzling.

[snusgetter]

I think you have to go to Thunders which peak really quickly to even come close to the hyper-sharp nic spike delivered by a cig. I'm sure that's why sterks are so helpful to the new snuser who's trying to quit the sticks. After shedding some of the smoking habituation over the first few weeks backing down to regulars is a pattern seen by a lot of many users. I've seen that plasma nicotine chart before and it illustrates this phenom perfectly. The snus graph is a bit mysterious since it's labeled as "2 g Swedish snus". I don't know of any snus with that much tobacco in it nor do I know of a snus rated at only 2mg of nic. Puzzling.

I just figured it was a typo whereas they were trying to show a
comparison between the snus to the same potency of the gum.

[Darwin]

I figured it was a typo as well but it's not exactly clear what kind of typo. The snus graph does look plausible enough for a regular 8mg portion but not for a sterk much less a full size Thunder.

[jagmanss]

Thanks everyone for your input and info, This is what I was looking for and is very helpfull information especially for those new to snus and trying to quit smoking with Snus as they can somewhat gauge what the cigarette to snus ratio would be.