Can't seem to convert even Camel snus users...

[Burnsey]

according to my calculations from the info in your post Dan. I think you must be the oldest member of snuson. Congratulations mate.

I feel a bit better now. There are a few of us that are old but ....dam.....none that I know of that are THAT old.
again, congrats. But this time for making it in this messed up world for so long. Keep it up.

....and he's still rocking the Ducati....right on Dan!

[rickcharles606]

I didn't use it to stop smoking but I tried it 'cos dip was tearing my lip apart...perhaps it was my appetite for it.

I've been successful converting two people and I currently supply them both. They're small potatoes, but Swedish snus is the only tobacco that they use now.

It's truly education on the subject. I bet when it does take off in the US, and it will, it's only a matter of time, I think it will be the younger tobacco user that moves to it. Most people are weary to try something different. After all, the three most brand-loyal things out there are Toothpaste, Mayonnaise, and Tobacco. Straight up. The younger people tend to do a little more online research on things and tend to me more open minded. I think knowing someone that uses it is key though. A problem might be if the younger user goes to it, the big tobacco in the US will use the older generation and might even prompt the media to shun the product "for the sake of the children". Sure, some will progress from snus to cigs, but a heck of a lot more will go the other way.

I'd guess that less than 10% of the population even knows what it is in the US. Half of those pronounce it wrongly snus doesn't rhyme with bus! A health professional that I spoke to recently didn't even know what it was and said that it must be the same as chew 'cos you put it in your mouth.

You think snus is weird...try taking a snuff bump in front of co-workers. It makes for great conversation, let me tell ya.

Go RickCharles...conquer the world!

You're definitely right about "younger tobacco users" moving to it more quickly. The 20-45yr old demographic is one that has been shown to be early adopters, better educated and faaaar more likely to research a product via the internet than older people. This is the age group that I personally try to appeal to and educate at trade shows and snus events that I do. If we can get this group onboard, they will bring the other demographics onboard by teaching them about snus too. This is ALSO a great reason to have sites like this and SnusCentral.

You're also very close on the percentage of people in the US that know about Swedish snus, but it's growing....thankfully. 5yrs ago when I began doing trade shows, NO ONE and I do mean, NO ONE knew what Swedish snus was, and now I actually have people come up who know the brands that we carry. It actually makes me feel like I'm making a dent, lol...but truth is, I need volumes of snus being sold in the US to increase 10 fold, so the biggest portion of work is still to come.

I'd ask everyone here to go to your local retailer/tobacconist and tell them to call me, or get me their info and I'll have our sale team contact them. That way, you can buy Thunder, Offroad, Jakobbson's and Oden's locally. Many of you have already given me info and we've been successful in most cases, and not so successful in others, but in time..every retailer will want to carry Swedish snus.

[WickedKitchen]

I didn't use it to stop smoking but I tried it 'cos dip was tearing my lip apart...perhaps it was my appetite for it.

I've been successful converting two people and I currently supply them both. They're small potatoes, but Swedish snus is the only tobacco that they use now.

It's truly education on the subject. I bet when it does take off in the US, and it will, it's only a matter of time, I think it will be the younger tobacco user that moves to it. Most people are weary to try something different. After all, the three most brand-loyal things out there are Toothpaste, Mayonnaise, and Tobacco. Straight up. The younger people tend to do a little more online research on things and tend to me more open minded. I think knowing someone that uses it is key though. A problem might be if the younger user goes to it, the big tobacco in the US will use the older generation and might even prompt the media to shun the product "for the sake of the children". Sure, some will progress from snus to cigs, but a heck of a lot more will go the other way.

I'd guess that less than 10% of the population even knows what it is in the US. Half of those pronounce it wrongly snus doesn't rhyme with bus! A health professional that I spoke to recently didn't even know what it was and said that it must be the same as chew 'cos you put it in your mouth.

You think snus is weird...try taking a snuff bump in front of co-workers. It makes for great conversation, let me tell ya.

Go RickCharles...conquer the world!

[trebli]

I really like snus but I would definitley not say it has made stopping smokingas easy as falling
off a log. im at 2 months now without a cigarette and still finding it a real struggle , probably easier
than using a patch but not by much , for me anyway. there is the added factor ofntaking pleasure from
the snus and the different blends and so forthsomething you just dont get with nrt
, but I am still left with an enormous cigarrette shaped hole in my life which I suppose I just have to accept
snus isnt going to fill

I understand what you mean, but only because others have talked about going through what you are going through. For me, the snus experience was completely effective. I started using snus as a supplement to cigs for 4 or 5 months before I tried to stop smoking. But as soon a I quit smoking I knew by the end of the third day that snus had broken my 25 year smoking addiction. I haven't felt any cigarette craving in over 6 years.

I guess everyone is different. Hang in there, and I'll bet that the day will soon come when you won't miss the cigs too much.

[Thunder_Snus]

I've actually had pretty good success with getting people to try it.
I don't try to push it to much just make people around me at work aware of it. Then when you're stuck in the office and it's -40 degrees out....they usually give in to an offer from me, rather than going to smoke.

[Skell18]

I was so desperately addicted to cigarettes that it scared me. I really thought I was going to continue smoking until they killed me...my chest was in bad shape. I got a tin of snus and from that very day never smoked again....no withdrawal...nothing. I was using the old Odens Extra Sterk.

I was the same, snus was just that bit extra combined with snuff that did it for me, never looked back!

[Premium Parrots]

according to my calculations from the info in your post Dan. I think you must be the oldest member of snuson. Congratulations mate.

I feel a bit better now. There are a few of us that are old but ....dam.....none that I know of that are THAT old.
again, congrats. But this time for making it in this messed up world for so long. Keep it up.

[DanF]

What is it about dip that "does it for you", that snus doesn't provide? Just wondering?

Rick

Because everyone's experience with tobacco is different there probably is no way to explain why I do not find the same results with Snus as I do with Dip.

Dip and cigars take me back to a time in my life when I first tasted tobacco. For most people that first experience was a mostly "hate" experience. They just kept it up because they thought it was "cool" or their friends were doing it.

But for me (when I was around nine) that first taste was heaven. That is a bad thing. But that was my memory of tobacco.

Years later I quit it all: but never forgot that time. Heroin addicts who quit are destined to go to their grave never forgetting what it did for them. It never ends.

When I returned to my old love (for reasons mentioned) I wanted Snus to work. It does not work for someone like me. Snus will and can never replace that 1949 first taste of a Camel.

Dip does, and mostly a good cigar, too.

For anyone else reading this......what can I say?

Never give tobacco a try in the first place. Ninety nine times out of a hundred you won't like it. Which is good.

But I am one of those out of a hundred people who never got over it.

Dan

[Frosted]

I was so desperately addicted to cigarettes that it scared me. I really thought I was going to continue smoking until they killed me...my chest was in bad shape. I got a tin of snus and from that very day never smoked again....no withdrawal...nothing. I was using the old Odens Extra Sterk.

[alopezg1]

I really like snus but I would definitley not say it has made stopping smokingas easy as falling
off a log. im at 2 months now without a cigarette and still finding it a real struggle , probably easier
than using a patch but not by much , for me anyway. there is the added factor ofntaking pleasure from
the snus and the different blends and so forthsomething you just dont get with nrt
, but I am still left with an enormous cigarrette shaped hole in my life which I suppose I just have to accept
snus isnt going to fill

[Andy105]

It's hard for a company to get the word out and advertise in the US, where government stigma and regulations make people think that you'll get cancer from even hearing the word 'tobacco'. I first heard of snus from some people at a bar in a Scandinavian neighborhood in Chicago, years ago. I have seen some General ads lately, on the Internet. With that, and guys like Rick marketing, maybe they're making some progress. The flavors, and not having to spit sold me.

[rickcharles606]

I gave Swedish Snus a very decent $700 go at it. I found Snus after I returned to Dip being away for thirty three years from all tobacco.

I loved Snus from day one. It not only did what it was "supposed" to do but it tasted real good too. I was into Swedish Snus!

After around five months I realized (personally: and this is not mean't as a factual judgement on Snus) that the reason I returned to my love affair with tobacco was not working for me with Snus.

I didn't want a substitute for tobacco with Snus as many people do and should look to find. Snus is defenitely the best way to get away from smoking cigarettes and tobacco as a whole.

But my reason for going "back" was missing with Snus. Dip works for me.

And most of all I have returned to an old love....cigars. Cigarettes will forever remain in my rearview mirror.

My reason for going back to any of it? I was looking at the clock.

Dan

what is it about dip that "does it for you", that snus doesn't provide? Just wondering?

[DanF]

I gave Swedish Snus a very decent $700 go at it. I found Snus after I returned to Dip being away for thirty three years from all tobacco.

I loved Snus from day one. It not only did what it was "supposed" to do but it tasted real good too. I was into Swedish Snus!

After around five months I realized (personally: and this is not mean't as a factual judgement on Snus) that the reason I returned to my love affair with tobacco was not working for me with Snus.

I didn't want a substitute for tobacco with Snus as many people do and should look to find. Snus is defenitely the best way to get away from smoking cigarettes and tobacco as a whole.

But my reason for going "back" was missing with Snus. Dip works for me.

And most of all I have returned to an old love....cigars. Cigarettes will forever remain in my rearview mirror.

My reason for going back to any of it? I was looking at the clock.

Dan

[OregonNative]

It's all about educating the consumer. I still run into people and retailers that have NO idea what Swedish snus is, how to use it and how using it can benefit them. I'm not only talking about consumers, but also tobacco retailers. I've been preaching Swedish snus for years now, selling it to retailers and then doing events at their shops to teach their buyers about snus and how to use it. It's working, slowly, but working nonetheless.

Swedish snus in the US is still a very small market (relatively speaking) compared to other tobacco products. It won't grow until convenience stores are successful with it, and convenience stores won't take it unless there is a real demand for it. The demand is built by tobacconists and tobacco outlets across the US, and it's these same retailers that will help educate the consumer and ultimately push demand.

Sites like this, help...at the consumer level, which is also needed. A consumer that does find out about snus or is exposed to the product somehow will investigate and do his homework online. We need to be vigilant and continue to answer their questions and remember that we were once that newbie :-)

Well said Rick. It's people like you though, who are marketing snus to businesses which in turn will increase the awareness on a much larger scale. Keep up the good fight.

[rickcharles606]

It's all about educating the consumer. I still run into people and retailers that have NO idea what Swedish snus is, how to use it and how using it can benefit them. I'm not only talking about consumers, but also tobacco retailers. I've been preaching Swedish snus for years now, selling it to retailers and then doing events at their shops to teach their buyers about snus and how to use it. It's working, slowly, but working nonetheless.

Swedish snus in the US is still a very small market (relatively speaking) compared to other tobacco products. It won't grow until convenience stores are successful with it, and convenience stores won't take it unless there is a real demand for it. The demand is built by tobacconists and tobacco outlets across the US, and it's these same retailers that will help educate the consumer and ultimately push demand.

Sites like this, help...at the consumer level, which is also needed. A consumer that does find out about snus or is exposed to the product somehow will investigate and do his homework online. We need to be vigilant and continue to answer their questions and remember that we were once that newbie :-)