makla products

[lxskllr]

what a bad news...and does snus has a "safe" PH level...?

anyway its strange because when i put the makla under lip it doesnt burn at all...anyway thanks for the advice!

snus is safer..?

Snus is safer, but It's a balancing act. Probably the ideal ph would be 7, but then you wouldn't get much nicotine. It needs to be alkali to release it. Regular snus ph is around 8.5. Stark snus is probably a bit over 9, but I don't know that for sure, and makla is about 11.

Honestly, I don't think most of us know the ins and outs of makla. This is primarily a Swedish snus forum, so that's where everyone's attention has been focused. You might find more on a web search if you look for people that have used it a long time. I'm not sure how you'd find that. Maybe there's some north African forums where it would show up. I may look around later out of interest. I don't have time right now, but the question interests me.

Swedish Match studies have indicated that strong snus is harder on gums than regular snus. I would expect makla to be even worse.

[lee777]

what a bad news...and does snus has a "safe" PH level...?

anyway its strange because when i put the makla under lip it doesnt burn at all...anyway thanks for the advice!

snus is safer..?

[lxskllr]

ok! but what side effects should i expect from that PH level (makla)...?

Eroded gums most likely. The amount would vary by the individual. Some people are rugged, and others delicate.

[lee777]

ok! but what side effects should i expect from that PH level (makla)...?

[lxskllr]

ok thanks for the infos..

may i ask you what do you mean with "tear up" the gums...? they will damage..? permanent damage..? now im a little paranoid

The ph is very high in makla, and that's bad for your gums. Stark snus is also, but the ph is lower than it is in makla.

[lee777]

ok thanks for the infos..

may i ask you what do you mean with "tear up" the gums...? they will damage..? permanent damage..? now im a little paranoid

[nate.n]

I didnt know the tsna was lower than snus. I guess you learn something new everyday. From what i read on that thread its the ph levels that will tear up you gums. I personally have never used it though. Im not sure about cancer if the tsna level is as low as snus but im sure snus tastes alot better. I heard makla taste horrible.

[lee777]

from this link (http://www.snuson.com/forum/showthre...rous-than-snus) i found this:

the TSNA level in Makla tobacco is even lower than the swedish snus one, but makla has a sensibly higher content in nitrite, chromium, etc

is it true..?

anyway is cancer by oral tobacco a real possibility...?

[nate.n]

Makla does not go through the same process snus does. When snus is made it is heat treated to lower the TSNAs that cause cancer and makla is not. If you are looking for high nic i would go with Odens Extreme or Thunder ultra strong. They have they highest nic. My personal favorite is Odens Extreme 59! I love it!

[lee777]

Hi Lee777. Dunno about Makla but why don't you try snus. I think you'll find it a lot better.

Lee, defiantly try some snus bro,
Odens snus is the highest nic. Snus available....
Try it youll like it

To explain what the other guys mean, commonly used on the web, the word snus is particularly Swedish. It denotes a particular processing style, and way of using it. Snuff OTOH can be used in the nose, or in the mouth if talking about American moist snuff. Makla is like snus, but isn't snus, even though it can be called snus. It's makla. Clear? :^D

clear. ok guys i'll definitely try some snus! but i want the best of all! which is the MOST potent of all...?

Buon/a giorno/sera amici !

buongiorno!

Ciao Lee777, greetings from a spanish brother!

I started with makla as well, but as all other mates here, I recomend you to try snus, you won´t be back to makla, it is definitely another world. Try Odens extra strong or Thunder Ultra strong and you´ll find a very good kick in your head with nicotine.

hola! soy italiano pero hablo espanol tambien (un poco ) espanol es el idioma que prefiero entre todos las lenguas!

ok ill try snus but how is thunder? it is a new stuff right?

Hi lee 777 - all of the Makla can be very strong ... I couldn't tell from using the different varieties which was the strongest - but when it was fresh it was definitely stronger.

I think the reason everyone is telling you about snus is 1) this is a snus forum! 2) you can get extra strong snus which is similar in strength to the strongest Makla and 3) Makla is really very bad for your gums indeed ... snus is much much more healthy if you can get it in Italy

2) do you think they are all the same for nicotine content (maklas)....? anyway i ususally use it (makla) because i know it is the most powerful stuff in term of nic compared to any othter product...is it correct...?

3) really? could it cause problems to my gums...? may i ask you why...? i hope nothing serious...

[squeezyjohn]

Hi lee 777 - all of the Makla can be very strong ... I couldn't tell from using the different varieties which was the strongest - but when it was fresh it was definitely stronger.

I think the reason everyone is telling you about snus is 1) this is a snus forum! 2) you can get extra strong snus which is similar in strength to the strongest Makla and 3) Makla is really very bad for your gums indeed ... snus is much much more healthy if you can get it in Italy

[Zubenelgenubi]

Ciao Lee777, greetings from a spanish brother!

I started with makla as well, but as all other mates here, I recomend you to try snus, you won´t be back to makla, it is definitely another world. Try Odens extra strong or Thunder Ultra strong and you´ll find a very good kick in your head with nicotine.

[gax1985]

Buon/a giorno/sera amici !

[tattooer601]

Right on
Kinda like people call soda pop, coke....etc

[lxskllr]

To explain what the other guys mean, commonly used on the web, the word snus is particularly Swedish. It denotes a particular processing style, and way of using it. Snuff OTOH can be used in the nose, or in the mouth if talking about American moist snuff. Makla is like snus, but isn't snus, even though it can be called snus. It's makla. Clear? :^D