What happened to Pioneer?

[GoVegan]

Anyone else notice that Pioneer is gone?

[squeezyjohn]

If you mean via Northerner then what do you expect? Reliability?

[squeezyjohn]

The website in Thailand is still operational

[Joe234]

The site is still up. I know, wrong Pioneer.

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/

[GoVegan]

Hopefully it will make a return but this doesn't look good.

[Kaplan]

First I can't get Onyx and now this. I was just about to order a roll or maybe two, and it's gone. Unbelievable. It was the best los of the many brands I've tried.

[UsualSnuspects]

Chad (snubie) was able to contact the owner last year during the flavor kerfuffle... perhaps he could reach out to him again?

[GoVegan]

Chad already did. Apparently, there is some kind of snag with the FDA but they expect it to be resolved soon.

[halocog]

I'd like to try some Pioneer. What would you guys say its flavor is similar to? I don't mean to derail

[UsualSnuspects]

What would you guys say its flavor is similar to?

I've never tried anything similar: super-fine dark clay; lx insists it's unflavored though I taste subtle hints of bergamot; I think lx also mentioned that it's either flue- or fire-cured; low sodium. It's in its own class, really.

[lxskllr]

I've never tried anything similar: super-fine dark clay; lx insists it's unflavored though I taste subtle hints of bergamot; I think lx also mentioned that it's either flue- or fire-cured; low sodium. It's in its own class, really.

I think what throws me off is it isn't like any other bergamot snus. All the others I've had have a noticeable citrus character. They're tangy and tart. I don't get that at all from Pioneer, and would have attributed the flavor to the tobacco cultivation. Since everyone's insisted, I can taste the bergamot, but I think the flavor aligns more closely with something like Ettan rather than General.

AFAIK, it's air cured tobacco. It's made just like Swedish snus, but in Laos.

[truthwolf1]

I burned myself out on Pioneer awhile back but now that it could possibly be gone a big craving is hitting!!! It was very original tasting and the most clay like out of any los I have ever tried.

[chadizzy1]

Chad already did. Apparently, there is some kind of snag with the FDA but they expect it to be resolved soon.

Correct. It's a paperwork thing that will be worked out soon.