Snus

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

This is my random bitching thread. I was just looking through Northerner's snus selection after a very long time, and I'm displeased with what I'm seeing...

Where's the lös snus? There's SM, and V2/V2 contract snus. Pioneer is very good, but OOS, and there's 1 lonely tin of Gotland Grå, which despite Jimmy's assurances otherwise, I think will get the ax sooner than later.

Where's the bergamot snus? All I'm seeing is General. Fsck General; seriously. It really isn't that great, and the only reason it's as popular as it is, is due to SM's previous monopoly in Sweden, and it being the only product they have in America(other than a brand new test run of Ettan SNUFF?! :^S).

Gotlandssnus... I've been a long fan of this company, but I haven't been feeling the love lately. They're taking the Apple approach, going with form over function. Yea, the new tins are kind of nifty looking, but the old Gotland tins were better. The new tins aren't /that/ much different than the other company's offerings, and they have fewer portions in them. Where's the lös?

Snus for Americans... Americans are idiots. Instead of chasing their stupid child-like tastes, tell them what's good. Americans have already voted, and we got Marlboro, Camel, and Skoal snus. The right to vote should be revoked, and the companies need to start making quality snus, rather than chase the masses. No focus groups, no nothing. Do your best, and people will come to it. You know what a camel is? It's a racehorse designed by committee :^S

you did not mantion GN brother we going to make LOOSE bergamot ))))

[lxskllr]

you did not mantion GN brother we going to make LOOSE bergamot ))))

That was intentional. I sort of mentioned you in the V2 contract snus phrase, but there currently isn't much in the non-Extreme category. Don't get me wrong, the Extreme tastes great, but it's just too strong for me to use regularly. I put in a pris last night, and had to take it out after 20 minutes or so. I was left laying in bed with my head spinning :^D

You developing a bergamot snus is very exciting. I haven't been enthused with a company as I have with GN for a very long time. I'll definitely get any standard strength snus you come out with. Your 69 white has a great taste, but white portions are my least favorite form. Olde Viking original is getting much closer to what I like. That would be in regular rotation if I used portions more. Make something like that in a los, and I'd be in heaven.

My oversight is due to me waiting to see what your whole self manufactured line is like. You're still very new, and companies have to prove themselves to me before they get my endorsement. Nothing personal, and I have full confidence you'll deliver. It may not be as immediately gratifying for you, and I'm just some guy on the web, but you can count on my endorsement actually meaning something, taken from my personal experience, and I'll stand by my words 100% :^)

[Ansel]

I agree, in fact even though I wasn't the biggest gotlands fan at first I lament certain lines disappearing. However I saved a tin or two, and I know transfer my SM los products to them as I use them.

Ken

They had an artisan quality.

[Monkey]

This thread has win.

I love los snus and that os what I buy.

I have nothing else to add to the well stated op and following comments......

[EricHill78]

The tobacco taxes are unjust and immoral.. One thing these people don't realize is this country was built on tobacco farming.. it's part of our history and heritage and should be embraced not demonized.

[EricHill78]

Tobacco is treated with the same stigma as crack cocaine and heroin.. its rediculous

[Ansel]

Tobacco is treated with the same stigma as crack cocaine and heroin.. its rediculous

Yet many of the finest minds were users!

[Mykislt]

Tobacco is treated with the same stigma as crack cocaine and heroin.. its rediculous

that's not true at all

[Ansel]

that's not true at all

I think it was a deliberate exagerration not intended to be taken seriously.

[CoderGuy]

I think it was a deliberate exagerration not intended to be taken seriously.

Not TOO much of an exaggeration here in the states. We have let those &^#@)(*^$#$&^%&^% anti-tobacco ^%&^%$$%&&^ get way too much power and as a result the original bans on indoor smoking to save the non-smokers from 2nd hand smoke has grown to the point that companies are firing people just for using tobacco (even on their own time), hospitals will not even let you in if they smell smoke on your cloths (3rd hand smoke), if you light up and you are even within sight of a child people are shielding their eyes like you were butchering a lamb and yelling at you to put it out or move somewhere else... so no, it's not too much of an exaggeration.

[EricHill78]

Not TOO much of an exaggeration here in the states. We have let those &^#@)(*^$#$&^%&^% anti-tobacco ^%&^%$$%&&^ get way too much power and as a result the original bans on indoor smoking to save the non-smokers from 2nd hand smoke has grown to the point that companies are firing people just for using tobacco (even on their own time), hospitals will not even let you in if they smell smoke on your cloths (3rd hand smoke), if you light up and you are even within sight of a child people are shielding their eyes like you were butchering a lamb and yelling at you to put it out or move somewhere else... so no, it's not too much of an exaggeration.

+1 exactly my point

[Ansel]

lol that sounds ludicrous.

[CoderGuy]

lol that sounds ludicrous.

It is! So is 75% tobacco tax (higher in some states). There have even been cases where they have edited old movies and photos where cigarettes appeared to remove them.

[Ansel]

It is! So is 75% tobacco tax (higher in some states). There have even been cases where they have edited old movies and photos where cigarettes appeared to remove them.

Reminds me of this song from a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5OegUCe704

[timoteo]

As sad as this thread really is.. I think I deffinetly like it Lx. , I couldnt agree more with what you say... Im a Löser baby, so why dont you kill me.
some insight for the newbs. In 2 years of using snus my tastes for snus and my likes and dislikes have changed and flipped around so much.. its been a wild ride...... I hope it never ends.

swedish snus producer(s) if you are a guay that would like to come live in america, we will make snus in my mother and fathers kitchen and you can chill here.