Ok guys, just came from the customs now...

[Frosted]

Now, this is obviously untrue. Go to any tobacconist and check how many cuban cigars they have. Obviously, they didn't order them in batches of 10, now did they? And it can't be specific to online sales, I mean come on, if that's the problem, then I'll send my order to Northerner by snailmail next time.

There is a confusion here, I believe, between when duty/taxes/whatever are due and the total amount you're allowed to import.

That's because the wholesaler they get them from has a tax representitive in the UK.

[precious007]

@mortred the papers and law that I am talking about applies to citizens that do NOT buy tobacco for commercial purpose.

There are two different laws, go check with your customs lol

[muddyfunkstar]

from EU countries not from US

this law applies for products ordered from EU to EU.

Stop shouting. That's what I said, if you read my post properly.

And then I posted the limits from non-EU countries.

Jesus, man.

[Frosted]

My advice is just keep the size of your orders down.

I've got a roll coming from Northerner US ( I hope ) which I bought before www.odensnus came on the scene, so we'll see what happens.

[precious007]

My advice is just keep the size of your orders down.

I've got a roll coming from Northerner US ( I hope ) which I bought before www.odensnus came on the scene, so we'll see what happens.

UPDATE

just phoned the Romanian customs now again (main bireau) and the UK customs

the same thing they told me 50 grams through mail packages and 250 grams if you're carrying the tobacco while entering the EU state (this again applies for products coming from outside EU)

it was allowed to buy from Sweden and no one said anything in the customs because it was completely legal to buy SNUS (tobacco) INSIDE the EU up to 3kg. (that is why packages coming from EU countries to EU countries are not even subjected to customs)

meaning US.... Australia ....Asia or anywhere

[Frosted]

So what you're saying is - as from March the law has changed and you now cannot buy snus up to 3kg you can only buy 50g.

I don't understand what you're saying precious - sorry.

[precious007]

So what you're saying is - as from March the law has changed and you now cannot buy snus up to 3kg you can only buy 50g.

I don't understand what you're saying precious - sorry.

I might have made it a bit too difficult to understand ..

the short story is that you are only allowed to bring 50 grams of tobacco in packages and 250 grams if you bring the tobacco through the customs by yourself.

[Frosted]

Well if that's a fact - that's not going to kill me.
I'll just order 5 tins of Frosted minis at a time which adds up to exactly 50g. At least it's not illegal.

At the moment I'll risk a roll until I get lifted - If I get lifted I'll count the frequency of it and see if it's worth it.

[muddyfunkstar]

Frosted, bear in mind that Snus isn't covered by the UK Tobacco Products Duty, so from our point of view none of this is an issue. The only thing we are liable for is VAT when buying from the US.

[precious007]

that's what the customs officer told me to order 2 cans of dip in one go.

Here's a short thing from the romanian customs site for products coming from non-communitary states, states out of the EU:

c) produse din tutun:
- 40 de ţigarete; cigarettes
-100 de cigarillos (trabucuri cu o greutate maximă de 3 grame fiecare);
- 50 de trabucuri; cigars
- 250 grame de tutun de fumat. = smoking tobacco

the law doesn't even state chewing tobacco, it states 250 grams of "smoking tobacco"

now I get the whole thing

[Frosted]

Frosted, bear in mind that Snus isn't covered by the UK Tobacco Products Duty, so from our point of view none of this is an issue. The only thing we are liable for is VAT when buying from the US.

I think you're the one that's right here mate.

We still have a little freedom in making our own laws in the UK.

[muddyfunkstar]

I think you're the one that's right here mate.

We still have a little autonomy in making our own laws in the UK.

I still think that we should keep our orders small, but legally, we're sound.

[precious007]

this is the exact law, I finally put the puzzles together.

Ok if you're living in the EU.

You're allow to bring from outside EU:

c) produse din tutun:
- 40 de ţigarete; cigarettes
-100 de cigarillos (trabucuri cu o greutate maximă de 3 grame fiecare);
- 50 de trabucuri; cigars
- 250 grame de tutun de fumat. = smoking tobacco

(though packages, meaning ordering online - 50 grams)

You're allow to bring from inside EU:

1) ţigarete - 800 bucăţi;
2) ţigări (cu o greutate maximă de 3 grame/bucată) - 400 bucăţi
3) ţigări de foi - 200 bucăţi
4) tutun de fumat - 1 kg

that is why they have banned the snus, not i get it perfectly. To stop the large quantities comming in from Sweden.

The guy in the customs was specifically talking about tobacco good coming from OUTSIDE E.U

Hence, since snus can only be ordered from US we're kinda screwed. and I am more screwed because I cannot order dip either

We still have a little autonomy in making our own laws in the UK.

yes you are but I just called in the customs again and YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BRING 1KG of tobacco from INSIDE THE EU (not from outside the EU)

[precious007]

I'm sure there will be problems with orders coming from US.

but lets just wait and see

[Frosted]

this is the exact law, I finally put the puzzles together.

Ok if you're living in the EU.

You're allow to bring from outside EU:

c) produse din tutun:
- 40 de ţigarete; cigarettes
-100 de cigarillos (trabucuri cu o greutate maximă de 3 grame fiecare);
- 50 de trabucuri; cigars
- 250 grame de tutun de fumat. = smoking tobacco

(though packages, meaning ordering online - 50 grams)

You're allow to bring from inside EU:

1) ţigarete - 800 bucăţi;
2) ţigări (cu o greutate maximă de 3 grame/bucată) - 400 bucăţi
3) ţigări de foi - 200 bucăţi
4) tutun de fumat - 1 kg

that is why they have banned the snus, not i get it perfectly. To stop the large quantities comming in from Sweden.

The guy in the customs was specifically talking about tobacco good coming from OUTSIDE E.U

Hence, since snus can only be ordered from US we're kinda screwed. and I am more screwed because I cannot order dip either




yes you are but I just called in the customs again and YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BRING 1KG of tobacco from INSIDE THE EU (not from outside the EU)

So no worries then - www.odenssnus rules.