Would You Pay More For Lös? If So, How Much?

[Veganpunk]

I wouldn't pay more. I use los, but not as much as portions.

[LincolnSnuff]

Los is cheaper to produce than portions being that it does not require portioning machines, material, quality control checks, etc. I wouldn't pay a penny more than now.

[Mykislt]

LX, don't even ask these questions, you are putting ideas into peoples heads.
for the record, no way would I pay more, I actually DO pay swedish tobacco tax, and DO pay more. so NO no more.

it does NOT last twice as long, because you are definitely bound to use more than a gram.

Snus is already expensive why bring this **** up?

[lxskllr]

LX, don't even ask these questions, you are putting ideas into peoples heads.
for the record, no way would I pay more, I actually DO pay swedish tobacco tax, and DO pay more. so NO no more.

it does NOT last twice as long, because you are definitely bound to use more than a gram.

Snus is already expensive why bring this **** up?

Curiosity. The makers have already done market research that's way better than SnusOn would ever be, and their conclusion was to stop making lös. I was interested is seeing whether or not tobacco aficionados thought differently than the average person.

[precious007]

LoL.

I am already paying $10 per can,don't think it can get any worse ...

Voted for $7....

The fact that los snus is basically the same price as portion snus, will make the portions twice the price..... because the quantity IS double in los cans...

BTW I've found a site once, they were selling empty snus portions (can't find it right now) -

For portion lovers you can buy empty snus pouches and buy los instead of portions..... you'll make 50 portions out of a los can instead of 24 :-) as they are in the portion cans.

[Mykislt]

Curiosity. The makers have already done market research that's way better than SnusOn would ever be, and their conclusion was to stop making lös. I was interested is seeing whether or not tobacco aficionados thought differently than the average person.

whaaaaa? I thought 1/3 of snus sold was los

LoL.

I am already paying $10 per can,don't think it can get any worse ...

Voted for $7....

The fact that los snus is basically the same price as portion snus, will make the portions twice the price..... because the quantity IS double in los cans...

BTW I've found a site once, they were selling empty snus portions (can't find it right now) -

For portion lovers you can buy empty snus pouches and buy los instead of portions..... you'll make 50 portions out of a los can instead of 24 :-) as they are in the portion cans.

it's snus2.se

[precious007]

whaaaaa? I thought 1/3 of snus sold was los



it's snus2.se

oh yes .... I think it was snus2.se

thanks for the link they have some nice cheaper snus cans for sale :-)

[MJ26]

I think all the prices are raising all the time anyway so it surely comes a time when snus lös do cost 7,8,9,10 dollars and so on. In the EU snus prices raise about 50 cent per year. I think im going to buy it anyway so long as I use snus but hopefully the prices stay reasonable. I remember my first times when I bought snus on tax-free and it was like 1,70E and now it's like 3-> euros. and with taxes almost 5E or more. I may do my own if it needs to.

[lxskllr]

whaaaaa? I thought 1/3 of snus sold was los

I don't know about that. I think the manufacturers would love to drop lös completely, and just sell portions. They get taxed by the tobacco weight, and going from memory, that's ~$2.50 per 50g. Think about that a second. Before anything is done, a 50g tin of lös costs $2.50 in taxes. Then you add the material costs, distribution, hopefully some profit... The makers try to keep price parity with portions due to their research, so you can see where the issue is.

[Mykislt]

I don't know about that. I think the manufacturers would love to drop lös completely, and just sell portions. They get taxed by the tobacco weight, and going from memory, that's ~$2.50 per 50g. Think about that a second. Before anything is done, a 50g tin of lös costs $2.50 in taxes. Then you add the material costs, distribution, hopefully some profit... The makers try to keep price parity with portions due to their research, so you can see where the issue is.

searched around a bit, and I was right:

Over the past several years, consumers have moved from traditional loose product to pouch snus, which now accounts for about two thirds of volumes in Scandinavia.2)

http://www.swedishmatch.com/en/Our-b...d-snus/Market/
even if they might not be making as much profit from loose, surely they wouldn't wouldn't risk losing 1/3 of sales volumes.

[lxskllr]

even if they might not be making as much profit from loose, surely they wouldn't wouldn't risk losing 1/3 of sales volumes.

They might if they can't make money. They already raise the price by shrinking the cans. Lös is supposed to be in a 50g tin, but some companies have shrunk that to under 40g already. There's limit to how small you can make a tin, and when that limit is hit, it'll disappear.

[Mykislt]

They might if they can't make money. They already raise the price by shrinking the cans. Lös is supposed to be in a 50g tin, but some companies have shrunk that to under 40g already. There's limit to how small you can make a tin, and when that limit is hit, it'll disappear.

please...

I see right through you, you are just alarmist. There is no way in hell that los would be discontinued, there would be riots.

[precious007]

yes...

Los won't disappear :-)

And I don't know of many that have been discontinued .... either....

[lxskllr]

yes...

Los won't disappear :-)

And I don't know of many that have been discontinued .... either....

Montecristo and Taboca were both 35g tins. How small can you make a tin before someone won't buy it? People are idiots. They'll go for the larger portion tin because it's "bigger" even though they aren't getting as much by weight.

As to the ones that have been dropped... It's hard to say. Some disappeared as brands, others, only the lös vanished. It's more telling as to how much NEW lös has been made. As the old timers die off, you'll see Swedish Match dropping their old brands. Just like unfiltered cigarettes. The old guys have died off, and so did they. The last easy one to find is Camel, and that isn't so easy to find anymore.

[Mykislt]

Montecristo and Taboca were both 35g tins. How small can you make a tin before someone won't buy it? People are idiots. They'll go for the larger portion tin because it's "bigger" even though they aren't getting as much by weight.

As to the ones that have been dropped... It's hard to say. Some disappeared as brands, others, only the lös vanished. It's more telling as to how much NEW lös has been made. As the old timers die off, you'll see Swedish Match dropping their old brands. Just like unfiltered cigarettes. The old guys have died off, and so did they. The last easy one to find is Camel, and that isn't so easy to find anymore.

Well I've personally tried Taboca los, and it was not so great in my opinion, and as I understand it, Taboca and Monte were mostly sold in specialty tobacco stores, so it's no surprise, that they weren't selling and got the boot.

There are new looses, Skruf ES, and blue for example, and I think the reason that they aren't coming up with many new ones, more likely, because the average users of loose are older, and they stick to their favored brands. But just as many new portions come out, many are discontinued.

I think there is a stigma with unflitered cigarettes, people think that they are too dangerous, they can't handle the harshness, and hit hit is too strong. I don't think that their falling out of favor is completely due to "old timers" dieing out. The only downside of los is that it can be dirty, and can be inconvenient, it excels in all other ways.