New Skoal snus and new Marb snus has appeared at my gas station!

[skyline142]

So, here I am counting cigarettes, and we have 2 rolls of each kind. Marb Mint, Marb Original, Skoal Mint, and Skoal Smooth Mint.

I bet every single one of these are complete crap, they dont ring up yet, so I am not sure the price. But WI has really crappy tobacco taxes, so my bet about 5 or 6 bucks a can, only get 15 portions.

Im just curious how moist they are.

Regardless, the Altria guy was in here a few days ago, and he was saying stupid crap like, "Yeah, soon you guys will be getting the new snus in soon." I asked where we are gonna store it if they are gonna be bigger cans, I was referring to keeping them cool, and he pointed to the camel snus fridge and laughed, saying "That's the dumbest idea ever, I swear those people are RJR are freaking retarded. Keeping it cold doesnt do anything, like we have ever sold dip cold?!?!! HAHAH! Its completely dumb and just for sales, because what happens when you leave that can on your dash in the summer?! This stuff has never been seen before on the market at all, its a new line of tobacco, they just keep it cool so it will sell, has nothing to do with anything else. At least we arent gonna burden you with a crappy fridge"

I think the guy is completely missing the point.

What an idiot. I just laughed as I popped in a Jakobssons Original Strong (my favorite snus by the way)

[tom502]

Well, I think he is right about Camel "snus". I don't think it requires refrigeration, and is done so for sales.

[skyline142]

No, but what he is missing here, is ACTUAL snus is sold cold. Like in sweden. Sure, Camel's snus is pretty damn dry, but so are white portions, as well as dry whites, but those are also sold cold, am I mistaken?

One thing too this Altria guy said is, "Snus is brand new(which it really isnt at all), therefore there are no "standards""

[desirexe]

Maybe I am the only one who thinks this is ridiculous - Skoal is re-releasing their snus with two exciting flavors - mint and mint. Wow...put me down for a can of each! *sarcasm*

[SmokedEuro]

When i see this shit up here in NY im buying a can of each and will do a full review if no one else beats me to it. And if someone does im buying that crap anyway. I feel like it one of those movies that you know are soooooo bad but you gotta see it anyway just to see how bad it really is

[texastorm]

Its up to us to inform these people, especially people who are representing these products, so they are educated. Rather than let the guy remain a dumbass, you should have tried to politely correct him. Short of an argument though, some dumbasses are prone to argue to the death on a point they are obviously missing. Sounds like instead you revelled in you educational superiority. (Doing my superior dance!)

But then again, Altria doesn't really make real snus(yet), so I guess its ok to leave this guy in the dark.

[rickcharles606]

No, but what he is missing here, is ACTUAL snus is sold cold. Like in sweden. Sure, Camel's snus is pretty damn dry, but so are white portions, as well as dry whites, but those are also sold cold, am I mistaken?

One thing too this Altria guy said is, "Snus is brand new(which it really isnt at all), therefore there are no "standards""

Yeah, you're correct in that Swedish snus is sold cold in Sweden...thanks to Swedish Match. Does it need to be refrigerated?? Nope, manufacturers have run internal studies that show Swedish snus stored at room temperature, unopened of course...will keep up to 4 months without losing any moisture. So why is it refrigerated you ask....an ingenious marketing plan

Now do I like a cold portion....yep sure do. I do store my opened cans in the fridge because it seems to prolong the moisture and I freeze my stock.

[snusjus]

Yeah, you're correct in that Swedish snus is sold cold in Sweden...thanks to Swedish Match. Does it need to be refrigerated?? Nope, manufacturers have run internal studies that show Swedish snus stored at room temperature, unopened of course...will keep up to 4 months without losing any moisture. So why is it refrigerated you ask....an ingenious marketing plan

That's very interesting. Do you know if the pH level declines faster when unrefrigerated, or does it decline at the same rate?

[triplethreat675]

Skoal and Marb in Eau Claire

Hey there Skyline142 it's good to see you got yours from the Altria guy. Im hoping our shippment comes in on Friday. Ive got a bunch of cash to waste on trying what will most likely be complete shit but someones gotta try it to write a review. Where do you work? Shoot me a message when it hits the shelf Ive been dyin to at least try it. Good to see another real snuser in Eau Claire.

[Jwalker]

Eh it is true you don't need to refrigerate it I don't refrigerate mine and it's fine. It's also usually ok a few weeks after or some cases a few weeks before the best before date imo but after that you can bet on it won't be as good as before, my personal limit is usually if this is two months past I'm not using it because it get's too dry.

[Owens187]

New Skoal snus and new Marb snus has appeared at my gas station!

. . . My condolences.

[skyline142]

I wouldn't expect any fancy vanilla or anything at all. It's Skoal... Oh, wait, they do have peach and all that stuff for dip. Who knows! See, I wish companies in America wouldn't just leave us in the dark.

But anyway, i was gonna enlighten the guy, but the second I said something, he'd comeback with a little smart as remark about camels snus. Like I care. But, he is one of those stubborn guys. So he can be left in the dark.

Back to the TSNA levels, yes, I really thought the refridgeration was to keep those down? That's why this whole thing kinda had me going in the first place, since he was comparing snus to being just like dip, and how snus is a "new product", so "there are so standards".

And wow! Another snuser in Eau Claire, WI!? Effin right man.

[rickcharles606]

Ok, not a chemist - so be warned...

Why would pH change based on temperature?

I thought the refrigeration was to decrease TNSA's (or rather prevent their growth).

I've heard (and I think there has been a study on this, but not sure) that leaving snus unrefrigerated and unopened will only barely increase TSNA levels, but it's only after an extended period of time. NOTHING like fermented tobacco. I'll do some checking and asking around and find out. I'm looking at it from a marketing viewpoint, why would you need to refrigerate snus in a tobacco store, when the product turns so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I think it was a great marketing idea, lol. I can see someone at home tossing them in the fridge or freezer to preserve the product, because it's going to sit in their home until used.

[skyline142]

I've heard (and I think there has been a study on this, but not sure) that leaving snus unrefrigerated and unopened will only barely increase TSNA levels, but it's only after an extended period of time. NOTHING like fermented tobacco. I'll do some checking and asking around and find out. I'm looking at it from a marketing viewpoint, why would you need to refrigerate snus in a tobacco store, when the product turns so quickly? Don't get me wrong, I think it was a great marketing idea, lol. I can see someone at home tossing them in the fridge or freezer to preserve the product, because it's going to sit in their home until used.

This does make sense, because TSNAs are basically alive, correct? They grow exponentially I suppose. If dip starts with around 100ppm, there is no doubt getting to 200ppm is easy. But if you start at about .2ppm to 5ppm. it would take quite a bit longer to get up there.

[tom502]

C'mon someone, get these are post a review?