FROZEN SNUS EXPERIMENT! FROZEN VS REFRIGERATED STORAGE

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  • STORM6490MT
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 138

    FROZEN SNUS EXPERIMENT! FROZEN VS REFRIGERATED STORAGE

    Hello, I just started an experiment in which I use two Identical cans of Los weight Swedish Snus in different environments to determine which storage procedure works better to preserve the freshness of snus tobacco.

    Fancy!

    I purchased two cans of KNOX, my favorite cheap los snus, both of which are from the same lot and have the same freshness date on the can.

    The can marked with the X will be put in the freezer for storage when not used and the other will be put in the meat section of my refrigerator.

    When I try the snus, one can will be pulled out and let stand to come up to room temperature. Once the can is at room temperature, I will open the can and take note of the following:

    Smell, Taste, Texture, Moisture Content, color and finish. The finish will be my best explanation of how the snus develops and tastes up until I dispose of it.

    The snus will be baked in identical fashion and will be consumed for the same amount of time.



    I assume that the one in the freezer will become dry and taste worse than the one in the fridge. This deterioration will be caused by crystallization of the organic material. The crystals will shred the organic matter and break the substance down far faster than if kept at the suggested storage temperature.


    If you have any other ideas or indicators you can think of, let me know and I will add it in to the "research".

    I have a video showing the process on youtube, enjoy!

    Nick
  • Xobeloot
    Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 2542

    #2
    Add a third can to the mix. Keep it in a ziplock bag at room temperature with no freezing nor refridgeration. I'd bet the constant room temp will stay tastier than the one being repeatedly frozen.

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    • STORM6490MT
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 138

      #3
      Originally posted by Xobeloot
      Add a third can to the mix. Keep it in a ziplock bag at room temperature with no freezing nor refridgeration. I'd bet the constant room temp will stay tastier than the one being repeatedly frozen.
      That would give more information but we all know that snus in the fridge or kept cool and dry will stay longer and taste better than if you leave it out at room temperature. I would add the third if I knew earlier. I don't think I will be able to get a third can with the same lot number and date.

      What are you snusing right now? I just had the skruf stark los and it is great!

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      • Zero
        Member
        • May 2006
        • 1522

        #4
        I assume that the one in the freezer will become dry and taste worse than the one in the fridge. This deterioration will be caused by crystallization of the organic material. The crystals will shred the organic matter and break the substance down far faster than if kept at the suggested storage temperature.
        A valid hypothesis - the cell fluid can freeze and the ice crystals can pierce the cell walls. It may depend on the plant, mind you - I use Kaffir Lime Leaf in thai cooking and keep them frozen all the time. Just thaw a few when I need one here and there and they retain a great fresh aroma.

        When you thaw a tin from the freezer, leave it some time - maybe an hour or two (or overnight in the fridge the night before), so that any ice crystal that sublimate out can thaw and reabsorb.

        I'm curious to see what you find. 8)

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        • razor
          Member
          • Dec 2007
          • 78

          #5
          It could be my imagination, but freezing seem to make snus taste a little weaker (bland) than a freshly received can in the mail. Refrigeration does not seem to have this effect. Also a can that was frozen seems to loose more flavor mid way through the can.

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          • STORM6490MT
            Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 138

            #6
            Originally posted by Zero
            I assume that the one in the freezer will become dry and taste worse than the one in the fridge. This deterioration will be caused by crystallization of the organic material. The crystals will shred the organic matter and break the substance down far faster than if kept at the suggested storage temperature.
            A valid hypothesis - the cell fluid can freeze and the ice crystals can pierce the cell walls. It may depend on the plant, mind you - I use Kaffir Lime Leaf in thai cooking and keep them frozen all the time. Just thaw a few when I need one here and there and they retain a great fresh aroma.

            When you thaw a tin from the freezer, leave it some time - maybe an hour or two (or overnight in the fridge the night before), so that any ice crystal that sublimate out can thaw and reabsorb.

            I'm curious to see what you find. 8)
            Good point about letting the ice crystals thaw and reabsorb. I originally intended to keep both of them out for 30 minutes. I think 1 hour will work good for the frozen and 30 min for the refrigerated. After all, I don't want to spend so much time with it that the snus would expire for normal reasons. I think a two week experiment should do pretty well. If it does get interesting, maybe go till they are consumed completely or one goes bad.

            Thanks for the suggestion.

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            • STORM6490MT
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 138

              #7
              Originally posted by razor
              It could be my imagination, but freezing seem to make snus taste a little weaker (bland) than a freshly received can in the mail. Refrigeration does not seem to have this effect. Also a can that was frozen seems to loose more flavor mid way through the can.
              cool, that is what i would expect. the flavor is most important to me, then nicotine, taste and cost.

              did you happen to notice if the nicotine buzz changed at all?

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              • razor
                Member
                • Dec 2007
                • 78

                #8
                Nicotine level seems to be the same at first, but towards the halfway point of the can which is in about 4 days (I do a lot of portions, so los consumption is low), the taste seem to diminish. I think the moisture content is freed by the freezing and evaporates quicker. The some nicotine may go with it.

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                • KarlvB
                  Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 681

                  #9
                  Originally posted by razor
                  It could be my imagination, but freezing seem to make snus taste a little weaker (bland) than a freshly received can in the mail. Refrigeration does not seem to have this effect. Also a can that was frozen seems to loose more flavor mid way through the can.
                  Weird thing....

                  I've been freezing snus for a while now and I am currently using a can of General White that I had pulled out of the fridge over the weekend and thawed for an hour or so at room temp and then overnight in the fridge. (This is how I usually do it, especially in summer.)

                  About half way through the can now and what do you know...the taste has gone "flat". I can't describe it but the portion just feels and tastes weird....

                  I found this very strange because last week I was using Gotlands Gul and that can had been in the fridge as long as the General and it was perfectly fine.

                  Is this just a bad tin?

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                  • ripple
                    New Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 7

                    #10
                    i've only frozen one tin of rape portioned snus. the initial feeling of putting an ice cold snus in your upper lip is very satisfying; however, it seemed as though it took a lot longer for the saliva to saturate the portion vs. being refrigerated. even when it did finally saturate, it didn't build up an adequate amount of juice, imo.

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