How much nicotine is absorbed from snus...?!

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  • precious007
    Banned Users
    • Sep 2010
    • 5885

    #1

    How much nicotine is absorbed from snus...?!

    Does anyone know exactly how much nicotine is absorbed in the body from loose snus/portions?

    Let's take General Extra Sterk Portion for example (it contains 12mg/ gram)

    That's almost half a pack of cigarette for gratitude, how much of it is actually absorbed ?!! ... :P

    Assuming one keeps it for 2 hours and gets the most nicotine out of it.....
  • snusjus
    Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 2674

    #2
    I've done some research on nicotine uptake from snus, and it's estimated that 10%-15% of the nicotine from snus is absorbed into the body.

    General Ekstra Sterk Portion contains 15mg per portion.

    Thus, a portion of GES will delivery between 1.5mg to 2.25mg of nicotine.

    Comparatively, a standard 8mg portion will delivery between 0.8mg to 1.2mg of nicotine.

    There are other factors that affect nicotine absorption. The pH level of the mouth can lower or raise the amount of nicotine absorbed from snus. For example, drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. Another important factor is portion manipulation. Pushing the portion with the tongue will "drain" the portion and result in a higher level of nicotine absorption.

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    • precious007
      Banned Users
      • Sep 2010
      • 5885

      #3
      That makes it pretty clear.

      So it basically means that a pack a day smoker should consume on average half a can of loose snus a day to satisfy the nicotine cravings.

      Lets do the math: Odens Extra Stark Kanel (12mg nicotine/ gram - 1.2 mg absorbed) that means half a can would deliver 27 mg of nicotine, maybe a bit less. (that's roughly how much nicotine a pack of 20 Marlboro Red delivers.

      Being a pack a day smoker for almost 14 years (not a smoker anymore) I can say that half a can of loose snus delivers way more nicotine than a pack of strong cigarettes ... or at least the snus gives a much stronger buzz.

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      • xrt
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 374

        #4
        I'd like to know this too, because guys... I use Thunder ES loose (stongest snus available), and I don't get any buzz.

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        • precious007
          Banned Users
          • Sep 2010
          • 5885

          #5
          Originally posted by xrt View Post
          I'd like to know this too, because guys... I use Thunder ES loose (stongest snus available), and I don't get any buzz.
          rolf ... that is pretty weird .... Thunder ES Loose isn't the strongest snus ;-)

          Probably you have a high tolerance to nicotine but you should get quite a bit of buzz from thunder ES.

          Try Skruf ES loose, Oden's Kanel ES loose and General ES loose they're much stronger.

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          • stubby2
            Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 436

            #6
            I've heard a number of different takes on absorption of cigarettes verses snus. One thing to keep in mind is that one regular strength cigarette has about 10mg of nicotine but only about 1mg is absorbed. About a 10% efficiency. But..... the hit from a cigarette is much faster and will spike much higher then anything else. The nic from snus is much more steady state without the big spikes and falls. According to the absorption rates I would be getting about the equivalent of about 6 or 7 cigarettes with the amount of snus I do. Well.... it was normal for me to go easily go through a pack of cigs a day so I should be in constant craving..... but I'm not.

            Don't know what it is but something else is going on

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            • Mykislt
              Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 677

              #7
              Originally posted by precious007 View Post
              Try Skruf ES loose, Oden's Kanel ES loose and General ES loose they're much stronger.
              General ES loose is 13mg nicotine/g snus
              Thunder ES loose is 16mg nicotine/g snus
              Odens Kanel ES loose is 17mg nicotine/g snus
              Skruf ES loose is unknown nicotine/g snus. (they claim to have the highest amount of nicotine)

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              • snusjus
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 2674

                #8
                Speaking of Thunder, I don't get much of a nicotine kick from it. From my own experiences, General Ekstra Sterk hits the hardest, with Skruf Ekstra Stark being pretty close to it.

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                • Darwin
                  Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1372

                  #9
                  For me the nic spike from a sterk seems if anything a bit higher than a cig but of course it takes a few minutes to kick in. Good for at least an hour after that and the nic cravings abate substantially for a couple of hours after that. The whole habituation regime of cigs is an extremely hard nut to crack in my estimation regardless of the nic strength of any particular snus.

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                  • jagmanss
                    Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 12213

                    #10
                    Originally posted by snusjus View Post
                    Speaking of Thunder, I don't get much of a nicotine kick from it. From my own experiences, General Ekstra Sterk hits the hardest, with Skruf Ekstra Stark being pretty close to it.
                    I have also found this to be true in my case with the General Ekstra Sterk los hitting harder than the Skruf Ekstra Stark Los.. Hell ! I thought it was just me because the Skruf is the highest nic content, Not to say that the Skruf doesn't hit hard.. It does and depends what I had just before taking it. If I had an 8 mg portion in of General OP then take a 2 click pris of Skruf Extra Stark los It does hit hard..

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                    • truthwolf1
                      Member
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 2696

                      #11
                      I found those wise/oomph's to give the biggest boost of nicotine at the fastest rate.
                      Doubled those once before going into a party and then could barely talk to anybody because of nicotine shock.

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                      • snusgetter
                        Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 10903

                        #12
                        Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                        I found those wise/oomph's to give the biggest boost of nicotine at the fastest rate.
                        Doubled those once before going into a party and then could barely talk to anybody because of nicotine shock.
                        Yeah, I've noticed that when I use the Northerners (aka Wise/Oomph)
                        that I get nic satisfaction pretty quickly and that it lasts longer than
                        even the sterks I use on a regular basis. Wondering if it has to do
                        with the Purified Tobacco and how it's processed. I usually forget I've
                        got one lipped; I've even had full meals with a couple in without even
                        realizing it -- talk about discreet! And my nic cravings are minimized,
                        even without experiencing a 'buzz'.

                        The Boost is my main go-to when out-and-about. I usually double-barrel
                        them with no problem; 12mg for me barely reaches the strength of the
                        Strongs/Sterks that I rely on for at least half my daily dosages. I've
                        even commented that if I had experienced these when the PACTcrap
                        went into effect I would have been able to cut my stash in half, space-
                        wise!

                        Now if only Northerner would come up with some new flavors! Cinnamon
                        (à la Big Red) would be nice; so would a coffee/vanilla. I was hoping to
                        try the Northerner Christmas Snus but that's looking more and more
                        doubtful; still waiting to hear from an overseas friend on that one.

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                        • Mykislt
                          Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 677

                          #13
                          cinnamon
                          (à la big red) would be nice
                          you masochist

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                          • snusgetter
                            Member
                            • May 2010
                            • 10903

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mykislt View Post
                            you masochist

                            It's one way to get a 'buzzzzzzzzz'

                            A clove snus would/should be good, too!!

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                            • jagmanss
                              Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 12213

                              #15
                              Originally posted by snusjus View Post
                              I've done some research on nicotine uptake from snus, and it's estimated that 10%-15% of the nicotine from snus is absorbed into the body.

                              General Ekstra Sterk Portion contains 15mg per portion.

                              Thus, a portion of GES will delivery between 1.5mg to 2.25mg of nicotine.

                              Comparatively, a standard 8mg portion will delivery between 0.8mg to 1.2mg of nicotine.

                              There are other factors that affect nicotine absorption. The pH level of the mouth can lower or raise the amount of nicotine absorbed from snus. For example, drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. Another important factor is portion manipulation. Pushing the portion with the tongue will "drain" the portion and result in a higher level of nicotine absorption.
                              I've heard about this alot, But what I want to know is if drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth and affect the amount of nicotine absorption, What drinks and food and such would raise the pH level in the mouth and then cause an increased absorbtion rate..

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