Lowest Nicotine Snus for Lightweight?

[Miroslav]

Hey, all! Been reading up a bunch of threads here lately (pointed here by google every time, so I know this must be the real forum to come ask questions!) and finally decided to register. Been smoking on and off for about 10 years, cigs, cigars, pipes, hookah, and also tried some smokeless a few times. I recently decided not to do any more smoking, especially after my last pipe session when my wife said she would not kiss me goodnight anymore if my mustache smells like a campfire (!!!). SO!

Smokeless it is.

But I get the feeling if I buy a can of Copenhagen Long Cut she won't quite care for that smell either...

The (seemingly) easiest option I recall would be snuff, but the one time I tried it I thought I was going to have a heart attack at 19 (did I inhale it? no sneezing, no nose blowing...)

I'm pretty sensitive to almost all drugs, including nicotine - so a little bit goes a LONG way for me. So I am hoping to find the lowest nicotine snus to start out with. The only kind I've ever tried was Camel Mellow. Honestly, I probably bought it 3 or more times, but mostly as an alternative to the copenhagen. It didn't bother me much, but I couldn't swallow, I still had to spit now and then (I think the artificial sweeteners give me heartburn?) and if it weren't for that, I'd probably just get some more because it's easily found where I live (philadelphia suburbs).

Sorry for all that rant!

Bottom line: if someone were new to the drug and wanted to start out easy, which snus is the "kiddie" version? (for strength, NOT flavor. Prefer natural tobacco flavor).

[CCC]

I am no expert at all but from what i have read the Mini Portions are around 4mg i believe, unless they say strong in the description.

[Miroslav]

I suppose there isn't much variety to be found in mini whites, eh? I'm not a fan of mint, so I don't think I can get anything locally (pretty sure I can find General around here if I'm lucky, but their only mini is mint?)

[Smart]

Look here: http://www.buysnus.com/de/Search.aspx?Cat=2&Sub=1

It might help you find something

[squeezyjohn]

For full-sized pouches you can try General Silver which is only 6mg/g strength provided you're not in the EU like I am!

There's also this product called Loonic which comes in 25%,50%,75% and 100% strength (presumably 8mg,6mg,4mg and 2mg) portions.
http://www.snusbolaget.se/catalogsea...sult/?q=loonic

[nate.n]

I would say give a regular portion a try. If you have used cope you should be fine. I would try to find general white portion. Shouldnt be to hard. General silver would be good but you would have to order it online because in the US they only sell general mint , white, original, and wintergreen.

[Ansel]

Yeah give the 8mgs or 9mgs a go

[whalen]

Well, just start using Grov and Ettan Los, use what you need, skip all the fuss and muss of spending years playing around with flavors and portions, and just get with plain tobacco goodness, and stare that woman down if she so much as farts in your general direction! Hillbilly the Prillas, that way you skip all the preliminaries to what you will end up doing for real in four years of using snus. I actually think this is the absolute best advice I could ever give you........and it will take about four years for most to see the wisdom of it.

[Miroslav]

I always like the loose dip and rolling my own cigs because I could decide how much I wanted. But I'm not sure I could get a comfortable pris in my upper lip by hand like you say, whalen.

When I did use cope, I could use like 1/3-1/2 can in a week (but I was also smoking at the time) and then it went bad. So I'm not a heavy user. To be honest, I mostly just like the taste of tobacco, I hate getting a real nic hit, makes me feel funky (I'm a straight edge kind of guy...).

My next related question is about N absorbtion - is it through the lip lining like with dip, or is it from swallowing the juices? I ask because once when my son was very little we found half of a cigarette in the living room, and the tip was a bit wet. We assumed he ate it, so we called poison control immediately. Not only did they say that this kind of thing happens all the time (makes me wonder how many stick I ate as a boy....) but also that it's only dangerous if he drinks loads of water with it. Apparently the kids who get really sick from Nic OD are ones who grab a soda can that someone dumped a cig butt in and it "brewed" to make like a "tobacco tea". Made me think that is almost like the juice from putting the leaves in your mouth... So do you get nic absorption from swallowing also?

Has anyone here ever used snus like dip? (I have a habit of spitting a lot anyway, and I can imagine that would upset an upper lip pris if I spit every 5-10 minutes... I think a medication I'm on makes me produce more saliva as a side effect... that would undoubtedly make a snus drip a lot more, right?

[nate.n]

I always like the loose dip and rolling my own cigs because I could decide how much I wanted. But I'm not sure I could get a comfortable pris in my upper lip by hand like you say, whalen.

When I did use cope, I could use like 1/3-1/2 can in a week (but I was also smoking at the time) and then it went bad. So I'm not a heavy user. To be honest, I mostly just like the taste of tobacco, I hate getting a real nic hit, makes me feel funky (I'm a straight edge kind of guy...).

My next related question is about N absorbtion - is it through the lip lining like with dip, or is it from swallowing the juices? I ask because once when my son was very little we found half of a cigarette in the living room, and the tip was a bit wet. We assumed he ate it, so we called poison control immediately. Not only did they say that this kind of thing happens all the time (makes me wonder how many stick I ate as a boy....) but also that it's only dangerous if he drinks loads of water with it. Apparently the kids who get really sick from Nic OD are ones who grab a soda can that someone dumped a cig butt in and it "brewed" to make like a "tobacco tea". Made me think that is almost like the juice from putting the leaves in your mouth... So do you get nic absorption from swallowing also?

Has anyone here ever used snus like dip? (I have a habit of spitting a lot anyway, and I can imagine that would upset an upper lip pris if I spit every 5-10 minutes... I think a medication I'm on makes me produce more saliva as a side effect... that would undoubtedly make a snus drip a lot more, right?

If i was you i would get some loose and a 3 ml syringe and make a ghetto icetool. I heard you can still buy general loose in PA. If you use half a gram prilla it would be about 4 mg of nic.

And you can spit with snus if you want. I believe you get a little nic from the juice that is swallowed but the majority is absorbed through your mouth like dip. I would not recomend putting a prilla in your bottom lip though. Instant mudslide

[Burnsey]

If i was you i would get some loose and a 3 ml syringe and make a ghetto icetool. I heard you can still buy general loose in PA. If you use half a gram prilla it would be about 4 mg of nic.

And you can spit with snus if you want. I believe you get a little nic from the juice that is swallowed but the majority is absorbed through your mouth like dip. I would not recomend putting a prilla in your bottom lip though. Instant mudslide

Pretty much my experience so far. The lower deck hillbilly was too messy, a pinch in the upper lip was not very satisfying. I went to the pharmacy and got a child's cough syrup syrenge, they give them away, cut off the end and got a nice and huge prilla of Roda which lasted two hours, all in all delicious.

[Miroslav]

don't the portions (especially white) lower the N absorption rate (and amount?) I read somewhere that you get about 20% of what is listed. I imagine it's much higher with loose (and quicker?)

[whalen]

Wrong, you get the same amount. The whites just drip less.

[nate.n]

The portion material does not affect the nic. And because the snus is loose inside the portion i think the nic comes on faster than a tight prilla but the flavor and nic dont last as long.

[Miroslav]

So for low, slow, and steady, go for los?