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Originally posted by lxskllr View PostI can't believe you're arguing this with me. I've seen profiling, I've BEEN profiled. With all the shit running around the news, and legislators screaming about illegals, what other conclusion can cops come to? They usually aren't held responsible for their actions in the best of times. What about now when they're TOLD to find illegals?
I can't believe you are arguing with me on this either, it's so simple and pure common sense.
Your just enforcing my point Lx. I'm in no way saying profiling doesn't happen. Profiling is something that exists and will never go away until we replace cops with robots. This law makes it harder to profile. That is a good thing. It WILL NOT be full-proof. What do you suggest Lx, that we stop making laws or something? Why do you not protest the federal law that has been on the books for decades? Why now? Because republicans introduced it?
If your logic is, this law is bad because it may lead to profiling, than what law could you possible approve of ever? So just because there is shit running around the news about muslim terrorism lately, we should suddenly stop passing anti-terror laws because it may offend them? We should not address any given issue because it may lead to profiling which has happened since the beginning of time as it is a basic survival technique of homo sapiens sapiens? You suggest that we should first fix our basic underlying human nature before writing any new laws?
Society cannot function that way, all we can do is mitigate against these constants as much as possible, this law realized that race is an issue and may lead to abuse, therefore it goes the extra distance to specifically prohibit it so that if in the future abuse occurs, the law can be used against the corrupt officer. As of right now, abuse happens in the current system and nothing is preventing that. At least this law takes a proactive step.
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Originally posted by sgreger1 View PostI can't believe you are arguing with me on this either, it's so simple and pure common sense.
Your just enforcing my point Lx. I'm in no way saying profiling doesn't happen. Profiling is something that exists and will never go away until we replace cops with robots. This law makes it harder to profile. That is a good thing. It WILL NOT be full-proof. What do you suggest Lx, that we stop making laws or something? Why do you not protest the federal law that has been on the books for decades? Why now? Because republicans introduced it?
If your logic is, this law is bad because it may lead to profiling, than what law could you possible approve of ever? So just because there is shit running around the news about muslim terrorism lately, we should suddenly stop passing anti-terror laws because it may offend them? We should not address any given issue because it may lead to profiling which has happened since the beginning of time as it is a basic survival technique of homo sapiens sapiens? You suggest that we should first fix our basic underlying human nature before writing any new laws?
Society cannot function that way, all we can do is mitigate against these constants as much as possible, this law realized that race is an issue and may lead to abuse, therefore it goes the extra distance to specifically prohibit it so that if in the future abuse occurs, the law can be used against the corrupt officer. As of right now, abuse happens in the current system and nothing is preventing that. At least this law takes a proactive step.
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Originally posted by lxskllr View PostI have no idea what political party proposed/passed the law, I'm against it. As far as the anti terrorism laws go, I'm against those too. They do nothing for terrorism, and they tighten the grip around citizens necks. I'm not much interested in living in a country where I'm told where to go, what to do, and when to do it. Where my communications are monitored to "protect" me. Where my right to arms is infringed, where I wonder if I'm going to jail when a cop shows up behind me, and I forgot my license at the house. Who's going to hold the cops accountable? The only time anything's done now is when someone ends up dead, and it was caught on film by a bystander. Who's really gonna give a shit when somebody complains they've been pulled over 3 times in the last month? Do you seriously think anything will even be said at the station?
Well I have to agree with all of that. But the media will be sure to highlight each and every time someone gets wrongly pulled over, I can guarantee that. Everyone will be watching this like a hawk, and there are already cops who says they are going to purposely profile people to bring a bad light on the law. This is why we can't have nice things I guess. I wasn't referring to the patriot act when i said anti-terror laws but you'r right, it's all pointless. This law will probably end up the same thing, pointless because everyone will be too afraid of showing up on the news to actually use it, except maybe Sherif Joe Arapiano.
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The fact is that most Illegals who commit crimes go unpunished, because there is no money in prosecuting somebody who has no money or no viable way of tracking that money, let alone deportation. This law won't make a damn bit of difference in the long run, right now just another thing for us to argue about while everything that matters goes down the crapper......
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What we will look like if we don't stop illegal immegration here:
http://europenews.dk/en/node/14505
Europe has for years been inundated by muslim imigrants as well as illegal muslim immegrants, like some immegrants in America, they do not want to assimilate. This is bad because:
The Pew Research Center reported that half of French Muslims see their loyalty to Islam as greater than their loyalty to France. One-third of French Muslims do not object to suicide attacks. The British Centre for Social Cohesion reported that one-third of British Muslim students are in favour of a worldwide caliphate. A Dutch study reported that half of Dutch Muslims admit they “understand” the 9/11 attacks.
All throughout Europe a new reality is rising: entire Muslim neighbourhoods where very few indigenous people reside or are even seen. And if they are, they might regret it. This goes for the police as well. It’s the world of head scarves, where women walk around in figureless tents, with baby strollers and a group of children. Their husbands, or slaveholders if you prefer, walk three steps ahead. With mosques on many street corner. The shops have signs you and I cannot read. You will be hard-pressed to find any economic activity. These are Muslim ghettos controlled by religious fanatics. These are Muslim neighbourhoods, and they are mushrooming in every city across Europe. These are the building-blocks for territorial control of increasingly larger portions of Europe, street by street, neighbourhood by neighbourhood, city by city.
Many European cities are already one-quarter Muslim: just take Amsterdam, Marseille and Malmo in Sweden. In many cities the majority of the under-18 population is Muslim.
Mohammed is the most popular name among boys in many cities. In some elementary schools in Amsterdam the farm can no longer be mentioned, because that would also mean mentioning the pig, and that would be an insult to Muslims. Many state schools in Belgium and Denmark only serve halal food to all pupils. In once-tolerant Amsterdam gays are beaten up almost exclusively by Muslims. Non-Muslim women routinely hear “whore, whore”. Satellite dishes are not pointed to local TV stations, but to stations in the country of origin. In France school teachers are advised to avoid authors deemed offensive to Muslims, including Voltaire and Diderot; the same is increasingly true of Darwin. The history of the Holocaust can in many cases no longer be taught because of Muslim sensitivity. In England sharia courts are now officially part of the British legal system. Many neighbourhoods in France are no-go areas for women without head scarves. Last week a man almost died after being beaten up by Muslims in Brussels, because he was drinking during the Ramadan. Jews are fleeing France in record numbers, on the run for the worst wave of anti-Semitism since World War II. French is now commonly spoken on the streets of Tel Aviv and Netanya, Israel.
The Christian-Democratic attorney general of the dutch say he is willing to accept sharia in the Netherlands if there is a Muslim majority.
Replace muslim with latino and replace religion with La Raza and Reconquista and you have us in 20 years if we don't start protecting our border.
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