Stephen Hawking: Aliens probably exist, but leave them alone

[texasmade]

ive been to church a few times...i havent been to a muslim hating gay bashing fundie baptist church. but we all know that fundies blame batural disasters on te locals selling their souls to the devil


check out Pastor Billy Ball in primrose georgia to see a nutcase

sign out front of his church says "ISLAM WILL TAKE YOU STRAIGHT TO HELL"

he goes to gay pride parades and harrasses the shit out of people he calls the "dyke" parades and the police officers that arrested him were queer officers


"Pray for Brother Neal Horsley and Brother Jonathon Otoole who were both arrested on 3/10/10

Neal's Charges1. Terrorist Threat
2. Criminal Defamation
3. DISS THR NET INFO ????
this is assumed to be an internet distribution charge"

the preceding quote is from his churches website

http://www.sonsofthundr.com/home.html




ill post some links so you can see the type of man that people listen to.




http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2009/08...gay-signs.html

http://www.interstateq.com/archives/2453/


http://columbiacitypaper.blogspot.co...illy-ball.html


http://www.covenantnews.com/ball060801.htm



also apparently scientists have proof that aids is the gays fault :roll:

http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/2556/

[Darwin]

@ Darwin.
Scientists on earth spend their whole careers studying different types of fish and algae, what makes you think alien scientists wouldn't want to study other intelligent life?

Oh they might well want to do that but I was merely commenting on the extreme unlikelihood of their actual presence. To add to the distance, technological and sociological factors that mitigate against that presence we have to add the "time window" factor. We have been a true technological society for only a couple of centuries. This is a microscopic amount of time in terms of the age of the galaxy. That means our technological society occupies only one scant frame of a ten billion year long film. That this brief flicker of radio emissions might have gotten anyone's attention farther out than about .0001 percent of the volume of this quadrant of the galaxy is to be optimistic to the point of absurdity.

We might have been visited by alien scientists, explorers, or automated probes in the past but that event could have just as easily been a billion years ago as it could have been last week.

I've been an enthusiast of science, and of science fiction, for over fifty years and consequently, odd as it may seem, I am convinced that a Star Trek style universe where a technological species abides in every other old shirt-tail star system is only the very remotest of probabilities. Not worth getting worked up over and certainly not worth endless speculation on what bunch of bored aliens helped the ancient Egyptians make electrical batteries and mechanical computers.

What we as a technological species can now achieve and may achieve in the future is much more interesting to me than most dreams of extra-solar intelligences. That's not to say I don't greatly enjoy reading about that sort of thing but there's a damn good reason we call it science fiction.

[Mordred]

What we as a technological species can now achieve and may achieve in the future is much more interesting to me than most dreams of extra-solar intelligences. That's not to say I don't greatly enjoy reading about that sort of thing but there's a damn good reason we call it science fiction.

This.

[tom502]

I like the Raelian Religion.

[Roo]

I watched part of that Ancient Aliens show last night on History Channel. I couldn't subject myself to the whole thing. If people are so convinced that humans are the result of some alien innovation, riddle me this: How then could could the human genome be so similar to that of other animals, and in fact, to that of PLANTS? Mammalian embroyos are almost identical at very early stages of development in the womb. Or did aliens bring all life to this planet... And if so why. Sounds like a sci-fi god substitute to me.

Did anyone else catch this show? I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread. How about the guy with ridiculous hair saying that Chinese dragons of lore were actually alien rocket ships and flying saucers? LOL what a fruit.

[f. bandersnatch]

Roo- I'm with you. The whole ancient aliens thing can be summarized effectively by displaying a picture of that crazy-haired, bronzer-happy crackpot that they have decided to use as head talking piece for the theory.

To me, I think the theory of aliens coming down and helping the ancients out just serves as a shield for our fragile contemporary scientific egos. It seems altogether myopic to assume that ancient civilizations could not have understood or achieved in ways that are incomprehensible to us through means that are incomprehensible to us. The"aliens" in this theory really just stand as a catch-all explanation for how great feats of engineering were achieved, but one that is totally without foundation. It could just as easily be a theory about how the ancients mastered magic or lightsabers.

[sgreger1]

I watched part of that Ancient Aliens show last night on History Channel. I couldn't subject myself to the whole thing. If people are so convinced that humans are the result of some alien innovation, riddle me this: How then could could the human genome be so similar to that of other animals, and in fact, to that of PLANTS? Mammalian embroyos are almost identical at very early stages of development in the womb. Or did aliens bring all life to this planet... And if so why. Sounds like a sci-fi god substitute to me.

Did anyone else catch this show? I know it was mentioned earlier in the thread. How about the guy with ridiculous hair saying that Chinese dragons of lore were actually alien rocket ships and flying saucers? LOL what a fruit.

Not that I subscribe to that theory, but the way i've read it is that aliens came down and made some kind of genetic modification to already existing primitive man, and/or they came down and taught man of math, science, agriculture etc and that is why there was this sudden explosion of innovation at one point.

The timelines don't add up to well, and in my estimation it seems that (if carbon dating can be believed, which I believe it can) there is more evidence for man slowly achieving a series of complex and great feats over a period of time.

Human enginuity is likely the marvel of the universe and what we have accomplished in such a short time is astonishing. Nature always improves on itself, but it's a slow process, humans on the other hand have taken evolution into our own hands and absolutely bitch slapped nature and become so high on the food chain that we don't even consider ourselves animals anymore. Our ego's have even manifested in this concept that god created us seperate from animals and that we are some special thing (religion), when in reality we are likely to have just been the first species to do soemthing with our large brains and our self awareness has inspired many technologies and cultural memes.

[bakerbarber]

Whatever I hear on Coast to Coast AM must be true.

Ian Punnet is a marvel of douche baggery. Not really a good "interviewer," but I still listen if he pulls a good topic.

Stephen Hawking's nurse has been selling his meds on the street and slipping him tic tacs and broken up jolly ranchers. So, he thought a little too deep into this one. I agree that if aliens had the ability to travel here, they'd probably give two turds about our petty issues.

I say the aliens are us from the future. We're trying to warn ourselves to stop playing around with genetically modified food and over use of antibiotics. DUH!!

[Roo]

I like the Raelian Religion.

From some website called "the skeptic's dictionary":

Raël claims that the Elohim [aliens] have taught him that the human race was created from the DNA of aliens some 25,000 years ago. (In fact, all life on earth was created in alien laboratories.) Among other things, Raël has also learned that cloning is the way to immortality and there is no God or soul. According to Raël, our alien creators want us to be beautiful and sexy and enjoy a sensuous life, free from the restrictions of traditional Judeo-Christian morality.

According to Grescoe, "Raël's success seems to derive from providing a structured environment for decadent behavior: He offers a no-guilt playground for hedonism and sexual experimentation." Fortunately, the Raëlians are big on using condoms.

His followers consider him to be "the prophet of the third millennium." Like all good religious leaders, Raël expects his followers to support him. A 10% tithe is the norm.



I saw that dude on TV a while back. He wears sweet outfits. Tom you should start your own cult, imagine the benefits. tom502 Sri Rajneesh, mobbing around in Rolls Royces with 21-year-olds in your lap

[danielan]

Stephen Hawking's nurse has been selling his meds on the street

I don't know. It makes sense to be quiet to me.

Here's an experiment:
1. Pick a large US city
2. Travel to the middle of it one night
3. Start yelling, "I'm here!" into a megaphone

Keep doing this until you get a response.

Do you think this response will be:
1. Friendly (people pile money and technology on you)
2. Unfriendly (you get robbed and/or beaten)
3. Deadly (self-explanatory)

[sgreger1]

I don't know. It makes sense to be quiet to me.

Here's an experiment:
1. Pick a large US city
2. Travel to the middle of it one night
3. Start yelling, "I'm here!" into a megaphone

Keep doing this until you get a response.

Do you think this response will be:
1. Friendly (people pile money and technology on you)
2. Unfriendly (you get robbed and/or beaten)
3. Deadly (self-explanatory)

Yah, stupid naive aliens. When visiting somewhere new you should always google it first to find out if it's in a good neighborhood.
We in the ghetto down here on earth, aliens come round here and get they ships stolen.

[f. bandersnatch]

Who are we kidding guys? All we have to do if aliens show up is get them addicted to tobacco. Then they will have no choice but to keep our planet alive.

[danielan]

Yah, stupid naive aliens. When visiting somewhere new you should always google it first to find out if it's in a good neighborhood.
We in the ghetto down here on earth, aliens come round here and get they ships stolen.

It's not the aliens. It's us.

We're advertising that we are here. But we have no idea what the neighborhood or the neighbors are like.

Anyone with enough technology to come visit us is sure to have better weapons then us. (Although - we do have Will Smith and Mark Hamill - maybe that evens the field...)

Can you think of any examples from history where a technologically inferior civilization was "discovered" by a more advanced civilization that turned out particularly well for the less advanced civilization?

Hoping they are friendly seems like a pretty big risk to take with our only planet.

[danielan]

Who are we kidding guys? All we have to do if aliens show up is get them addicted to tobacco. Then they will have no choice but to keep our planet alive.

Sure, but I don't really want to grow tobacco for our alien overlords.

[f. bandersnatch]

Sure, but I don't really want to grow tobacco for our alien overlords.

Thems the breaks, son.

Sometimes you gotta shit in a public toliet.

Sometimes you have to claim other peoples children on your tax return.

And sometimes you have to grow tobacco for alien overlords because the only alternative is for them to blink out your planet with a super lazer.