other gamers here?

[sgreger1]

Talking about the thingamazigly that lets you connect your 360 to wireless network to get access to play online etc. I don't have a cable, only WLAN

Oh shit I didn't even know they had that. My xbox has gone un-used since December when i had to move my modem upstairs to where my computer is, and as I have the old xbox I didn't have any way to connect to the internet. I'd like to know how much this costs as well.

[Nuusku]

Oh shit I didn't even know they had that. My xbox has gone un-used since December when i had to move my modem upstairs to where my computer is, and as I have the old xbox I didn't have any way to connect to the internet. I'd like to know how much this costs as well.

Here it is like 40 euros. Way too much

[Nuusku]

Oh shit I didn't even know they had that. My xbox has gone un-used since December when i had to move my modem upstairs to where my computer is, and as I have the old xbox I didn't have any way to connect to the internet. I'd like to know how much this costs as well.

Here it is like 40 euros. Way too much

[Crow]

If your wireless router is A/B/G, then you'll need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-360-Mic...378c7b662#shId

Used, $10 free shipping to US

If your wireless router is A/B/G/N, then you'll need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-360-WiF...item19d30d3775

Used, $45 free shipping to US

There's also a third-party N adapter made by Datel:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datel-Dual-B...item5ae5c9c7cf

New, $30 frees shipping to US

Not sure how well it works though. But it's compatible with A,B, or G (in case you don't have N class Wi-Fi)

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Nuusku, you can use this listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datel-Dual-B...item5ae5c9c7cf

$29.99 + shipping (Worldwide), which is equivalent to €24.6 + shipping

or, if you want an official Microsoft Wireless N adapter, there's an auction going on right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OFFICIAL-XBO...item46058a4055

Current bid is at $5.50 (€4.50), ending in 3 days. Add €8.40 for shipping

[Nuusku]

If your wireless router is A/B/G, then you'll need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-360-Mic...378c7b662#shId

Used, $10 free shipping to US

If your wireless router is A/B/G/N, then you'll need this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Xbox-360-WiF...item19d30d3775

Used, $45 free shipping to US

There's also a third-party N adapter made by Datel:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datel-Dual-B...item5ae5c9c7cf

New, $30 frees shipping to US

Not sure how well it works though. But it's compatible with A,B, or G (in case you don't have N class Wi-Fi)

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Nuusku, you can use this listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datel-Dual-B...item5ae5c9c7cf

$29.99 + shipping (Worldwide), which is equivalent to €24.6 + shipping

Thank you

[Crow]

No problem. I added an auction listing as well. You might be able to grab an official adapter at a lower price.

[PipenSnus]

I think the overlying theme of the Fallout series is "War never changes". Following that theme, I think there is also a secondary theme present in both Fallout 3 and New Vegas, which is that "Government never changes". In the first one, it was that robot that was trying to maintain the existing government that fell after the war, and the rich folks all holed on in their big tower. In the new game it is the NCR or the rich weapons dealers etc. The point they are trying to make is that even in a post-apocalyptical wasteland, the same problems would persist regarding the nature of government (or power in general), as well as the wealth divide.

There isn't much utopian shit going on in Fallout in case you havn't noticed, and I think the theme is fitting for the series, which tries to draw attention to the fact that war never changes, government never changes, and wealth and power never changes, regardless of what happens.

Also Lilly was my favorite too for the same reason lol.

I feel as if I've failed to get my point across. Certainly the Fallout series is dystopian, that's a given. But dystopianism is not equivalent to hopelessness and grim resignation. In fact, I think a case can be made that there is a thread of hope running throughout the series -- for example, in accomplishing the goals of Project Purity, in Fallout 3. It's been ages since I played the earlier games, but I seem to recall similar elements in them. The NCR were the good guys, as I recall, in Fallout 1 and 2, and quite committed to democracy, fairness, and rebuilding the world.

To me, the whole point of the series is not the dystopian conditions themselves, but how the player chooses to react to them. You can choose to say, "To hell with everybody else," and be the baddest SOB in the wasteland, or you can be the hero that rights wrongs and works for a better world, or anything in between. New Vegas, IMO, fails in that it provides less of a balance between the two. That's not to say it's not an enjoyable game.

You're certainly free to take the cynical "war never changes" POV of Ron Perlman's narrator, if that's how your character chooses to react to the Mojave Wasteland. But to me, the point of the series was that other points of view were not only possible, but playable, and I don't think NV stands up to its predecessors in that regard. I'm not asking for utopia, just balance.

[sgreger1]

I feel as if I've failed to get my point across. Certainly the Fallout series is dystopian, that's a given. But dystopianism is not equivalent to hopelessness and grim resignation. In fact, I think a case can be made that there is a thread of hope running throughout the series -- for example, in accomplishing the goals of Project Purity, in Fallout 3. It's been ages since I played the earlier games, but I seem to recall similar elements in them. The NCR were the good guys, as I recall, in Fallout 1 and 2, and quite committed to democracy, fairness, and rebuilding the world.

To me, the whole point of the series is not the dystopian conditions themselves, but how the player chooses to react to them. You can choose to say, "To hell with everybody else," and be the baddest SOB in the wasteland, or you can be the hero that rights wrongs and works for a better world, or anything in between. New Vegas, IMO, fails in that it provides less of a balance between the two. That's not to say it's not an enjoyable game.

You're certainly free to take the cynical "war never changes" POV of Ron Perlman's narrator, if that's how your character chooses to react to the Mojave Wasteland. But to me, the point of the series was that other points of view were not only possible, but playable, and I don't think NV stands up to its predecessors in that regard. I'm not asking for utopia, just balance.

Oh no I understand what you are saying. In fact I always thought it would be really cool if they made a Fallout 3 sequel that started off with project purity working, and in the new game part of the world is no longer barren and radioactive, but full with lush forests etc. I liked the whole project purity thing and really hoped they would have ran with it. Would be nice to see some ****ing trees or something in that game. Or a scenario where the people are in the process of rebuilding due to project purity etc and have made some progress outside of just making shacks and re-using old buildings.

[PipenSnus]

Oh no I understand what you are saying. In fact I always thought it would be really cool if they made a Fallout 3 sequel that started off with project purity working, and in the new game part of the world is no longer barren and radioactive, but full with lush forests etc. I liked the whole project purity thing and really hoped they would have ran with it. Would be nice to see some ****ing trees or something in that game. Or a scenario where the people are in the process of rebuilding due to project purity etc and have made some progress outside of just making shacks and re-using old buildings.

I can think of at least one location in Fallout 3 where you can see trees. But if you never discovered it, I won't spoil your fun. You may want to replay the game.

[sgreger1]

I can think of at least one location in Fallout 3 where you can see trees. But if you never discovered it, I won't spoil your fun. You may want to replay the game.

I am well aware of where there are trees. I'm just saying it would be cool to see project purity take off and have a map that was half lush and recovering and half wasteland. A small area with vegetation isn't really what I was referring to.

[sgreger1]

Man me and Nuusku are killing it on my Minecraft Tekkit server. For anyone who is familiar with the most amazing mod in the world (tekkit) and wants to play, let me know. We already got quite a world setup just over this past weekend. Automated quarries, rail systems, combustion engines, oil extractors, fuel refineries, the whole 9 yards.

[Nuusku]

Join us! We are awesome

[sgreger1]

The Snus/crystal meth factory will soon be complete. Do not miss the occasion Snuson!

[Nuusku]

Played some Fallout New Vegas today. Found out a new thing: "The plants kill!" if you know what i'm referring to.
My favorite part of the game. The music and the atmosphere just makes it so creepy. Specially if you keep reading the logs forward to the last one... Gave me chills

[Thunder_Snus]

Aside from my usual Halo, I've been exploring Civilization4 on pc.....i must say its different then what i would usually play but god dam is it fun and addictive