What was your first car?

[piks101]

That's closer than you could imagine. Mine was originally Black, but my brother painted it white cause it was hot as hell in the summer(no ac). It looked a little better than that one, but had some rust on the rockers, and a spot on the front of the hood.

I hear you..I have owned and drove plenty of rusty cars especially since back in the day rusty cars were everywhere. Now a rusty car is the exception. Was the AC broke or no AC? Interesting, my 73 Saab had fuel injection, AC, front wheel drive, factory sunroof, and 4 wheel disc brakes..way ahead of the American cars back in the day.

[lxskllr]

Was the AC broke or no AC?

Didn't have it. My 97 Jeep I have now is the first vehicle I got that had ac installed, but it doesn't work anymore :^D I'm not a big fan of modern conveniences. I'd like to be able to buy a car with bench seats, a rubber floor, and nothing electronic. I'm considering going retro with my next car, and getting something from the 60s or earlier. Not as reliable, but I can do a lot of work myself. Modern cars are big black boxes, with mystery computers that you have to buy proprietary testers to diagnose, and replace whole (expensive) components at a time.

[piks101]

Didn't have it. My 97 Jeep I have now is the first vehicle I got that had ac installed, but it doesn't work anymore :^D I'm not a big fan of modern conveniences. I'd like to be able to buy a car with bench seats, a rubber floor, and nothing electronic. I'm considering going retro with my next car, and getting something from the 60s or earlier. Not as reliable, but I can do a lot of work myself. Modern cars are big black boxes, with mystery computers that you have to buy proprietary testers to diagnose, and replace whole (expensive) components at a time.

In that case I would consider a Toyota FJ40 series, FJ60 series as well as a BMW 2002. All have old school technology and can be tested and worked on yourself without expensive testing equipment. Huge support communities and part availability.

[Andy105]

I'm considering going retro with my next car, and getting something from the 60s or earlier. Not as reliable, but I can do a lot of work myself. Modern cars are big black boxes, with mystery computers that you have to buy proprietary testers to diagnose, and replace whole (expensive) components at a time.

It's real funny that you mentioned that. This weekend, I had to replace the crankshaft damper in my 'modern' car, which meant taking half of the car apart, and raising my engine. When I came in from the garage, sweaty and pissed off, I told my wife that my next car is going to be a 1960 Ford pickup, where I can easily do anything under the hood, and the only thing electronic is the AM radio.

[Thunder_Snus]

Didn't have it. My 97 Jeep I have now is the first vehicle I got that had ac installed, but it doesn't work anymore :^D I'm not a big fan of modern conveniences. I'd like to be able to buy a car with bench seats, a rubber floor, and nothing electronic. I'm considering going retro with my next car, and getting something from the 60s or earlier. Not as reliable, but I can do a lot of work myself. Modern cars are big black boxes, with mystery computers that you have to buy proprietary testers to diagnose, and replace whole (expensive) components at a time.

lxskllr as difficult as some modern cars are, I can't imagine living through another IL summer without my AC seats, they are a dream.

Also adding on to what someone else says. Some modern cars are a pain in the ass. A couple years ago my parents ford fusion had some small problem with the AC that just needed a new part for 10$ (I don't know much about cars) But after taking the car apart to a point where they could actually install it the labor came out to be roughly 800. He eventually wrote to ford who agreed to pay for 500$ of it for their own faulty part and the pain it was to fix something so simple. I have no beef with Ford but between my old taurus and my parents fusion we got stuck with some real lemons.

[piks101]

Didn't have it. My 97 Jeep I have now is the first vehicle I got that had ac installed, but it doesn't work anymore :^D I'm not a big fan of modern conveniences. I'd like to be able to buy a car with bench seats, a rubber floor, and nothing electronic. I'm considering going retro with my next car, and getting something from the 60s or earlier. Not as reliable, but I can do a lot of work myself. Modern cars are big black boxes, with mystery computers that you have to buy proprietary testers to diagnose, and replace whole (expensive) components at a time.

Other suggestions Ford F150 truck and here is one for the budget conscious not purdy but a little work horse. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...oyota-starlet/

[Burnsey]

Other suggestions Ford F150 truck and here is one for the budget conscious not purdy but a little work horse. http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...oyota-starlet/

Ugly little work horse, gotta love it....but, "Other than replacing a few of the valve springs" makes me wonder as it is not an everyday event.

The Ford F150 is a long runner, but still high tech with computer control, etc.....I think that lxskllr is low tech VW kind of guy, fix-up the Thing!

[piks101]

Ugly little work horse, gotta love it....but, "Other than replacing a few of the valve springs" makes me wonder as it is not an everyday event.

The Ford F150 is a long runner, but still high tech with computer control, etc.....I think that lxskllr is low tech VW kind of guy, fix-up the Thing!

Just get a F150 pre fuel injection up to early 80's. As for valve spring replacement on 1983 Toyota Starlet not surprising after nearly 30 years and 300k miles.

[Frankie Reloaded]

Daevoo Tico

It would fit in most of your first cars and leave a room for the driver