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    #16
    Originally posted by Frosted View Post
    There is no freedom in this life no matter what. If you didn't have a job you'd have to hunt all day for food and grow it. If you are unsuccessful you starve. Without society there is no medical attention either....average lifespan would go back to 40. Society isn't all bad.
    true but, society somehow enslaves people in many ways

    only a few can achieve the freedom they want (yep total freedom is quite impossible)

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      #17
      Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post


      Look at the bright side........we will be totally free from everything.....when we die.

      I wonder about that.

      No one has ever come back to confirm it.

      This is the big journey that all of us will have to take.....alone.

      Dan

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        #18
        Originally posted by precious007 View Post
        true but, society somehow enslaves people in many ways

        only a few can achieve the freedom they want (yep total freedom is quite impossible)
        (Edited out...)

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          #19
          Originally posted by DanF View Post
          I wonder about that.

          No one has ever come back to confirm it.

          This is the big journey that all of us will have to take.....alone.

          Dan
          A neurosurgeon had an NDE and wrote a book about it. It challenged everything he believed in. I think I recall the guys name as Eben or something.

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            #20
            This was kind of like watching an episode of ancient aliens......they present these wild out there ideas and then say.....if that's the case wouldn't aliens be the most logical reason? They trick people because they start out with an idea that holds no merit what so ever, no proof, no theory, no possible way and then they say....just accept that idea now....nowwwwwww dont aliens sound true? Only if you are willing to look past that completely stupid first idea do you find the aliens building pyramids idea to be accurate.

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              #21
              Originally posted by DanF View Post
              I wonder about that.

              No one has ever come back to confirm it.

              This is the big journey that all of us will have to take.....alone.

              Dan
              I've stumbled across a few documentaries or people on talk shows that claim to have died, gone to heaven, and came back. The documentaries are completely bogus with people just saying random shit trying to promote some book they wrote. The few talk shows I've seen with this subject is some kid that was legally dead for a few minutes and he's up there telling this story and you just know his overly religious parents put him up to it and gave him a script to read to promote some ridiculous idea. You will not find one person who actually died and came back that claims they went to heaven without a book to sell you about it.

              The only after life theory I've ever found held any water was something about a certain chemical that builds in your brian over a lifetime. Something similar to mdma or something that they can see actually forms over a life time but can't identify. The theory is that split second when your life "flashes before your eyes" is this chemical release that basically allows you to relive your entire life or atleast the most crucial parts of it so even though you die instantly it may seem like you have relived your life or even made changes and lived an entire other life that could be for another 100 years in your mind. This can even explain basically a drug trip where you realize you have died and envision yourself heading toward an afterlife.

              I really doubt that if there was a god, he would allow you to die for 2 hours visit heaven then come back as a brain-dead living human being for another 60 years. Just my thoughts, you're free and entitled to your own.

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