Where u from?

[sagedil]

Well, um, I'm from Greensboro, North Carolina, USA. But don't mind me, continue with the debate, haha.

Another North Carolinian. I live in Raleigh. Grew up in California, went to Berkeley. My soon to be ex-wife transfered to Berkeley from NC State. 5 years after we met, right before we married, I convinced her to move back to Raleigh. been here 13 years, and it is my home now.

[DukeofPrunes]

Bruno, can I come visiit? Your lovely country has the best beer in the world!

[bruno]

Brussels. Capital of the flemish part of Belgium, Capital of Belgium, Capital of Europa, and believe me, Capital of "going down the bloody toilet", to borrow Zero's direct way to say it.

Sweedish Snus cannot been sold here (what a shame! what a pity!), and at the same time Belgium produces and sell in France, Belgium and North-Africa the divine (yes yes yes) MAKLA IFRIKIA (but no one knows here, except the Algerians and the Tunisians, and me, and two ladies, now).

Morocans used dry snuff. To be sure the two belgian ladies snus only the sweedish one. They appreciate very much the taste and the flavours and get still sick when their noze get at three inches of the ifrikia thing ...

Despite my craving for the ifrikia makla, I like to taste each of the sweedish snus between two maklas, like a sort of dessert. I like Kronan, the stark Skruff, but also the Nick and J, and the "cuban" Romeo y Julieta.

When I make my portion of snus (I am an ex-roller of cigarettes, and I keep the ritual by making my portion myself) people fake seeing nothing, and the most courageous ask me if it is hashish. When I say it is tobacco, they look with compassion like if I was so much intoxicated. Yet they smoke!...

I have stop smoking since fourth month. Once I get the snus, I have switch from smoking to snusing without any problem. On the contrary I enjoy tobacco much more through gums than through lungs. Got the feeling I switch from bicycle to plane. I wish I knew early!

[Steppenwolf]

I'm from germany (near Leipzig). But i moved to Stockholm, Sweden last summer. That's how i found out about snus. I'm a regular user for about 5 months now. Still got dozens of brands to try out before being a real expert. But it certainly helps to live in sweden. 8)

[qpzil]

Well, um, I'm from Greensboro, North Carolina, USA. But don't mind me, continue with the debate, haha.

[phish]

Well, to be fair, as an outsider who has lived over the past three years in the UK, one whom finds the BNP and UKIP equally distasteful, I have to say that Craig's summary isn't really that far off. Whomever the blame may rest on, the UK is going down the bloody toilet. There's lots to love about her, no doubt, but, there's also no escaping the fact that there is a serious devolution of social and moral stature going on here. The BNP would simply blame foreigners for everything while the reality is probably something more...systemic. :?

Well aren't you both rays of sunshine Maybe I'm just an optimist but every generation says 'society is going down the toilet' so much so its become cliché.

[Zero]

UK-common society devolves into a morass of languages, cultures, and parent-unattended yobs and a government which cares more about their standing with "Brussels"....

That sounds a lot like BNP and UKIP rhetoric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pendence_Party

Well, to be fair, as an outsider who has lived over the past three years in the UK, one whom finds the BNP and UKIP equally distasteful, I have to say that Craig's summary isn't really that far off. Whomever the blame may rest on, the UK is going down the bloody toilet. There's lots to love about her, no doubt, but, there's also no escaping the fact that there is a serious devolution of social and moral stature going on here. The BNP would simply blame foreigners for everything while the reality is probably something more...systemic. :?

[phish]

No, I'm not offended! I just can't resist defending Blighty

[Craig de Tering]

UK-common society devolves into a morass of languages, cultures, and parent-unattended yobs and a government which cares more about their standing with "Brussels"....

That sounds a lot like BNP and UKIP rhetoric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pendence_Party

For what it's worth, I did NOT intend this thread to become a virtual-verbal battleground. Phish, if I have offended you then I'm honestly sorry for it.

[phish]

UK-common society devolves into a morass of languages, cultures, and parent-unattended yobs and a government which cares more about their standing with "Brussels"....

That sounds a lot like BNP and UKIP rhetoric

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...pendence_Party

[Craig de Tering]

If you mean you're going back to the UK, you might be trading one inconvenience for another.
I mean, it's not like the UK is such a wonderful place ATM considering all the bad news coming from the place.

Badly worded on my part, I'm in the UK atm, previously lived in cinci for a bit and am wondering about going back there. House prices are so high here I can't move houses within the country to somewhere with more jobs.

Doesn't seem to matter where you go though, everywhere has it's problems.

Snus makes anywhere better though, it takes the edge off :lol:

Right. Undestood.
I'd be doing the same thing if I were you (going from the UK to the US) if only for the fact that -as an outsider- the UK seems to be collapsing for entirely other reasons than for monetary reasons like the US. And still, you have a chance the US$ will not collapse* while the rest of the UK-common society devolves into a morass of languages, cultures, and parent-unattended yobs.[edit] and a government which cares more about their standing with "Brussels" than with national voters. (Just like the rest of the EU-15. Dare to ask.).

(* according to an economist's blurb I read this morning via reddit.com)

[scratchybadger]

If you mean you're going back to the UK, you might be trading one inconvenience for another.
I mean, it's not like the UK is such a wonderful place ATM considering all the bad news coming from the place.

Badly worded on my part, I'm in the UK atm, previously lived in cinci for a bit and am wondering about going back there. House prices are so high here I can't move houses within the country to somewhere with more jobs.

Doesn't seem to matter where you go though, everywhere has it's problems.

Snus makes anywhere better though, it takes the edge off :lol:

[Craig de Tering]

East Anglia, UK. Married to an american gal, Lived in Cincinnati for a few years and might be moving back, this place is getting too damn expensive!

If you mean you're going back to the UK, you might be trading one inconvenience for another.
I mean, it's not like the UK is such a wonderful place ATM considering all the bad news coming from the place.

[scratchybadger]

East Anglia, UK. Married to an american gal, Lived in Cincinnati for a few years and might be moving back, this place is getting too damn expensive!

[Rick James]

Many americans in here I'm from Finland