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  • Burnsey
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 2572

    #91
    My friend Chuck bombards my in box with stuff that I think Zimobog would like.

    Here's one:

    Consider this ladies point of view.




    THE ONLY THING WRONG WITH THE GOVERNMENT'S CALCULATION OF AVAILABLE SOCIAL SECURITY IS THEY FORGOT TO FIGURE IN THE PEOPLE WHO DIED BEFORE THEY EVER COLLECTED A SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!!!
    WHERE DID THAT MONEY GO?

    Remember, not only did you and I contribute to Social Security but your employer did, too. It totaled 15% of your income before taxes. If you averaged only $30K over your working life, that 's close to $220,500. Read that again. Did you see where the Government paid in one single penny? We are talking about the money you and your employer put in a Government bank to insure you and I that we would have a retirement check from the money we put in, not the Government. Now they are calling the money we put in an entitlement when we reach the age to take it back. If you calculate the future invested value of $4,500 per year (yours & your employer 's contribution) at a simple 5% interest (less than what the govt . pays on the money that it borrows), after 49 years of working you'd have $892,919.98.

    If you took out only 3% per year, you'd receive $26,787.60 per year and it would last better than 30 years (until you're 95 if you retire at age 65) and that 's with no interest paid on that final amount on deposit! If you bought an annuity and it paid 4% per year, you'd have a lifetime income of $2,976.40 per month.

    Another thing with me.... I have two deceased husbands who died in their 50 's , (one was 51 and the other one was 59 before one percent of their social security could be drawn. I worked all my life and am drawing 100% on my own social security). Their S.S. money will never have one cent drawn from what they paid into S.S. all their lives.

    THE FOLKS IN WASHINGTON HAVE PULLED OFF A BIGGER PONZI SCHEME THAN BERNIE MADOFF EVER DID.

    Entitlement my foot, I paid cash for my social security insurance! Just because they borrowed the money for other government spending, doesn't make my benefits some kind of charity or handout !!

    Remember Congressional benefits? --- free healthcare , outrageous retirement packages, 67 paid holidays, three weeks paid vacation, unlimited paid sick days. Now that 's welfare, and they have the nerve to call my social security retirement payments entitlements ?

    We're "broke" and we can't help our own Seniors, Veterans, Orphans, or Homeless. Yet in the last few months we have provided aid to Haiti , Chile and Turkey. And now Pakistan ......home of bin Laden. Literally, BILLIONS of DOLLARS!!! And they can't help our own citizens in New York and New Jersey! They sure rushed to help Katrina victims in 10 days!!!!! I guess minorities have more clout!

    Our retired seniors living on a 'fixed S.S. income' receive no additional federal aid nor do they get any financial breaks, while our government and religious organizations pour hundreds of billions of $$$ and tons of food to foreign countries!

    They call Social Security and Medicare an entitlement even though most of us have been paying for it all our working lives, and now, when it 's time for us to collect, the government is running out of money. Why did the government borrow from it in the first place? It was supposed to be in a locked box, not part of the general fund.

    Sad isn't it?

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    • truthwolf1
      Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 2696

      #92
      If you go to http://www.ssa.gov/myaccount/ you can get a idea of what your estimated payout will be in your golden years. I started working at 14 lifting bags of manure into people's cars at a Franks Nursery and Gardens. It sucked but I did it and the government took their cut.

      Now years later it looks like my SS check will be about half a current paycheck. In another 25-30 years it could be more but I think there is a cap.

      I am absolutely counting on that small check to pay for utilities, prune juice, rail whiskey and property taxes while I sit somewhere fishing. Maybe I will have a 401k or maybe I will have to use it for a medical transplant or something. That goes with any real estate I have acquired. Sh!t happens and the money goes and that is why the SS is a great idea.

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      • Zimobog
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 585

        #93
        In a nutshell, this is how ss works: Governnment George owes you $100. He borrows $200 from Federal Reserve Frank. George says "there ya go, AND we have a $100 surplus!" . George hopes you dont notice that someone still owes Frank that $100, plus interest. That "someone" is people who are trying to make ends meet and children who arent even born yet.

        The solution at this point is to give everyone their money back (plus interest). There is no more a cowardly act of theft then to steal from children, but since they arent born yet they can't exactly object.

        Noone should be forced to pay into SS. That is theft.

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        • Ansel
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 3696

          #94
          I believe we need a benevelont dictatorship here in the UK.

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          • Ansel
            Member
            • Feb 2011
            • 3696

            #95
            Give people an IQ test before they are allowed children. Hmm, i don't know...

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            • Skell18
              Member
              • May 2012
              • 7067

              #96
              Originally posted by Ansel
              Give people an IQ test before they are allowed children. Hmm, i don't know...
              That I would agree with.

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              • Zimobog
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 585

                #97
                Gentlemen,
                Government gangsters plunder the productive Englishmen to redistribute economic subsidies towards persons having more children to feed than they can independently afford.

                Such as system promises a surplus of indigence and ignorance.

                Abolition of government promises to correct it.

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                • GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 7035

                  #98
                  So here we have 99 % hippies , one Stalinist and one Anarchist ....

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                  • Skell18
                    Member
                    • May 2012
                    • 7067

                    #99
                    Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                    So here we have 99 % hippies , one Stalinist and one Anarchist ....
                    and one down right sexy mother ****er (me!)

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                    • Ansel
                      Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3696

                      #100
                      Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                      So here we have 99 % hippies , one Stalinist and one Anarchist ....
                      lol

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                      • Zimobog
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 585

                        #101
                        Czechczar would make a worthy anarchist. He's pretty close from what Ive seen! Lol

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                        • Burnsey
                          Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2572

                          #102
                          Originally posted by GN Tobacco Sweden AB
                          So here we have 99 % hippies , one Stalinist and one Anarchist ....
                          Ya, so ?

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                          • CzechCzar
                            Member
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 1144

                            #103
                            I have flirted with anarchism in my college years. Anarchism works great if everybody is from the traditional American style society, where there is rule and respect of law, property rights, and people's selves. I have converted in my post-college years to a view that is... how shall I put this? VFR

                            Originally posted by Zimobog
                            Czechczar would make a worthy anarchist. He's pretty close from what Ive seen! Lol

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                            • Zimobog
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 585

                              #104
                              Very Far Removed or Very F$cking Radical?

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                              • Frankie Reloaded
                                Banned Users
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 541

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Frosted
                                Oh, I'd ban ALL religion.
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