Your political view's here please ..

[Frosted]

The main problem with all your points GN is religion. Religion is evil - love is not.

As far as the Iraq war was concerned - it was none of our business.

[Ansel]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21737627

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha they should have got more than 8 months!

hmm but keeping people in prison is expensive and they are bursting at the seams... these two are not a threat to society.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

The main problem with all your points GN is religion. Religion is evil - love is not.

As far as the Iraq war was concerned - it was none of our business.

Can you explain that to majority of people in Pakistan or Orthodox Jews ?? Yes you can, but what you'll gain ?? Nothing . What I want to say is with the issues we have to deal and deal the way it's required .

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

One one side you have people who has no ideology, who do not help each other , on the other side who have people who has tremendous strong ideology and brotherhood from Sahara till north China , now explain them that all started with Big Boom 12500000000 years ago you know what i mean

[Skell18]

hmm but keeping people in prison is expensive and they are bursting at the seams... these two are not a threat to society.

True, but the law takes a very dim view on perverting the course of justice, its very serious. Someone who gets caught doing 160mph on the motorway isn't a threat to society the same way as a drug dealer or persistent thief is, yet the speeding motorist will get sent to jail, the petty thugs keep getting away with it, I would rather have some bloke doing 160 on the motorway than people who steal to feed a drug habit on the streets and those that feed their habits.

[Frosted]

The problem with human beings is that they think they are more intelligent than they are - and that their views are more important than everybody elses. This psychosis can never be changed. What has happened, what is happening now and what happens in the future will always be the same as long as that psychosis is prevalent.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

What has happened, is that my kids no longer can live in the world I lived
What happens is that we slowly but shurly becoming Minority,
What will happen if we will not stop it .... Kaput .

[Frosted]

Oh, I'd ban ALL religion. It's not just Muslims and Orthodox Jews. I've seen what Christians can do to each other in Northern Ireland and it disgusts me to the pit of my soul.

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Oh, I'd ban ALL religion. It's not just Muslims and Orthodox Jews. I've seen what Christians can do to each other in Northern Ireland and it disgusts me to the pit of my soul.

I agree ..

[Frosted]

I agree ..

I didn't expect that

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

I didn't expect that

I just wanted to bring some drama on to this thread but I see not many dear to share they're thoughts , only politically correct one slightly shearing they're views ... But I likek Zimbogs answers ... Not that I agree with everything but it was nice to read him

[Skell18]

Oh, I'd ban ALL religion. It's not just Muslims and Orthodox Jews. I've seen what Christians can do to each other in Northern Ireland and it disgusts me to the pit of my soul.

Yup, get rid of religion and half the world's problems would vanish over night and I wouldn't feel so on edge going to Belfast.

[Zimobog]

Gentlemen,
I would like to reply to a few different posts at once.

Frosted said:

Every individual is different yes, but there are general cultural influences that are quite strong which are ingrained from youth which makes each country generally quite different in viewpoints from another, but within that people are still individuals.

Culture, in my eyes, is folk dancing, songs, and food. What should apply to individuals from all cultures is a constant universal ethic: that it is wrong to use violence to get one's way, and do not to take what doesn't belong to you. All just law is based upon that premise.
Culture, like language, is always changing based on the need of humans to live together and communicate with each other.
So people, from many different cultures, have made the mistake that language and culture are something that is moribund, static, fossilized. Culture is actually alive and must change to survive. Trying to keep culture in a bottle kills it.

Culture makes somethings very beautiful but has at times been used for ugly purposes. Culture, racial identity, religion are all false identities. Only one's identity as an individual is genuine and owned by them alone. People who are dissatisfied with themselves or their lot in life often justify their misery in the name of culture, race, or religion. "This is happening because I'm black/christian/gay/whatever" is not the answer.

That mindset prevents self-improvement.

An example: the Ukrainians complained loudly that all the science text books were in written in Russian; they said the Russians were trying to insult them. The obvious answer is for Ukrainians to become scientists and write books in the Ukraine language. The Ukraine was angry to see Russian books, because it rudely reminded them they had fewer scientists than Russia but they used it as an excuse to be angry about "culture". Instead of using it as an oppertunity for wide-spread self-improvement, they would rather tell the people that their lack of Ukrainian scientists is the fault of Russian domination.

GN Tobacco Sweden AB said:

Now lets face the truth Frosty as much we people of European heritage will be divided on East and west , orthodox and catholic , Protestant and Adventist we always will be week in front of danger out there , would you like me to point out some dangers ???
1. Muslims ( they're main ideology is that all Muslims are brothers ) are we that ? No .

The truth is that all men are brothers. We are all individuals and when we all pursue our own interests (and not group-think) the world is a more peaceful place.

2. We destroying our culture with " respect " to other cultures " Holliday tree " in stead of " Christmas Tree" , we allow alien ideology in schools , while we do not have any of ours left- " accept feminism" , "democracy " ( what a joke) and " geylesbianism".

Well, democracy is a joke: it is two wolves and a sheep voting on what is for dinner Democracy is the tyranny of the majority. When 51% of the people decide to kill, steal, or rape is murder, theft, and rape now allowed? The demo-crazies say that it is. I reject democracy.

The problem is with democracy: when the majority feels that things like Christmas and heterosexuals are the affront to their opinions, they will vote to take those away from you.

In the words of Thomas Jefferson "I care not whether a man has one god or a dozen- it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket". So long as no one is allowed to use force (or democratically elect a group of men to use force) to impose their way we will all be safe to live our lives the way we each choose.

3. Try to open in Pakistan or Saudi Arabia Christian school hahahah

Yes, good luck with that! There is no freedom of religion in those countries, our best of American allies!

4. We allow stupid wars like in iraq , Libya and Syria whilst its absolutely not our I mean our Christian Europian war ( I mean Christian Europe from France till Vladivostok) someones are Dividing us and govern

Many little bullies called "governments" want us all to fight for their agendas. More land, more hands, more resources for their plantations.

I mean the only righteous person to my point of view was pop Urban and that what he wanted to do with his ideology Byzantine and Rome story I mean ...
I thought that we do not need to seek deferences but similarities other wise never we will survive in this world ...
Yet again please do not accuse me of -
all sins like anti , hater and so on I just say the point of view which I strongly believe in, any objections ?

I think it is wonderful that he would seek to fix the rift between East and West, but don't you think the great shepherd wanted a larger flock? It would be better to remember that the Church wanted to be our masters on earth and tell everyone how to behave and whom to kill. Very little different from government, in my opinion.

Ok, so here is my opinion on the "War on Islam":

Today in the Westernized world, we are very forgetful of history. Not long ago, Christian governments and their respective church clients tore Europe apart with wars and cleanisings. What ended this bloody and regreatable period?

The Enlightenment. The beginning of the ideas that all men had free will. The right to property and to the fruit of their labors. The right to think what he or she wanted to, to say what they wanted to, the right to travel unhindered. The right to question everything and everyone. The right to doubt, to be curious, to be inventive, to be shrewd, to be creative, to rely on your own actions for salvation and trust to your fortunes and talent to see to your needs.

Sure, it wasn't perfect nor was it implemented evenly or totally (there was still monarchy, democracy, totalitarianism, mercantilism, monopoly, ignorance, wars, etc). But it weakened the hold that religious extermism had over the West.

We can't fight Islam like we are. The extremists among them want to die, killing them plays into their hands and allows them to propagandize the deaths. Military action becomes the justification for more extreme acts of violence.

The way to fight it is with Enlightenment. To teach them that every man and woman among them has free will, private property, the right to want things for themselves. Teach them that war creates unemployment and destruction, that extremism causes their crops to turn to dust while they hid in the hills. Teach them that there is something to live for in themselves. If the Islamic world was to encounter something along the lines of the Enlightenment, what would happen to their movement? What if Martin Luther had been a Muslim?

[GN Tobacco Sweden AB]

Zimbog for President !!!

[Zimobog]

My first act as Head of State is to eradicate the State! Hurrah!