Ten killed in shooting at 'Dark Knight Rises' premiere: local radio

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  • Joe234
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    Originally posted by sgreger1
    Oh Joe, how I miss your bigoted rantings. Glad to see you back posting again.

    Of course he must be a redneck for wanting to own guns. I guess everyone in seden are rednecks too. You are the one with no solution, your solution is dissapear all the guns which will never happen in a million years ever. And even then, they will just use something else, homemade explosives, chemical agents, whatever. Guns aren't the problem, whackos are the problem. By letting trained people legally carry a concealed firearm we have a chance to neutralize these whackos before they complete their rampage. That is really the only solution. Saying "let's make crime and guns and everything illegal" sounds nice but is not an actual plan since it is more impossible than whitney Houston taking her lips of the crack pipe.
    When did I say guns should be illegal? How about common sense like Europe.

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  • Dirty Hippy
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    Originally posted by Joe234
    Blow it out of your redneck ass. You have no solution. Kind of like the GOP.

    Do our members in Europe feel less secure without a Second Amendment
    that was written by old, white men with powered wigs?
    Joe,

    Let me break down what you just said and inject a little realism into it.

    1. Ah, the ole' redneck statement. Exactly how to do know I'm a redneck? Vs someone who intellectually understands and upholds our forefather's constitution and believes that it is a human right to protect your brothers in need?

    2. "You have no solution" Yes I do, open your ****ing ears, I explained it to you already. Your solution is to ban gun's and only let the criminal's have access to them, so that they can terrorize the innocent? While not allowing the innocent to protect themselves? Quite backwards thinking.....

    3. Please never relate me to the GOP, I consider myself part of neither party.....neither the GOP or the democrats have perfect solution's. Their combined intellect is hurt through the fact that they are unable to work together. As such, it is the largest problem in our world and will always will be. The fact that human's are unable to work together in harmony will be our demise.

    Your bigotry on this board only further proves this statement to me. Joe, you are the problem. Pure and simple.

    4. The European debate is also very wrong. Research statistics before you open your mouth, you might make yourself look less like a dumb ass next time.

    Violent crime in the US and Europe Overall robbery and assault rates in the United States are comparable to other developed countries, such as Australia and Finland, notwithstanding the much lower levels of gun ownership in those countries.

    [a b Kleck, Gary (2004). "Measures of Gun Ownership Levels of Macro-Level Crime and Violence Research". Journal of Research in Crime and Delinquency 41: pp. 3-36. NCJ 203876.]

    5. "Written by old white men with powdered wigs"

    Again more bigotry, that once again proves to me your only part of the problem, not the solution.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by lxskllr
    that's exactly right. More people died on the roads yesterday. And i don't mean more as "a little more", about 10* more people died on the roads yesterday. The world's dangerous, and shit happens. Get over it.
    BAN INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS, they serve only as an extension of the capitalist pig's tentacle of control. This is the only answer.

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  • truthwolf1
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    Originally posted by whalen
    Richard Pryor tells of meeting with bad asses in prison for background study, he met with a guy who had killed a house full of people, Pryor asked him why he killed everyone in the house. The reply was, "they was home"! That is "all" the logic it takes sometimes. Simple yet improbable. The game of trying to explain "weird shit" is a full time job after something like this. Keep the dialog open, along with your mind. Just remember that "shit happens"!
    Richard Pryor. best thing I have heard all day.
    I miss that guy.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by Nuusku
    U.S. is the richest nations in gun deaths. Coincidence?
    Actually we are #12 in firearm related deaths per capita.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate

    Also, note that nearly 60% of them are suicides and not homocides.

    Not sure what coincidence you are alluding to.

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  • lxskllr
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    Originally posted by Joe234
    What would you propose? Everyone say they are so sorry and move on? What a tragedy, boo hooo.
    That's exactly right. More people died on the roads yesterday. And I don't mean more as "a little more", about 10* more people died on the roads yesterday. The world's dangerous, and shit happens. Get over it.

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  • whalen
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    Well, he is alive and you can bet your ass they will build quite a profile on him! But as always, don't be surprised if it was just an "evil" moment in time, somebody runs over somebody's Hamster and next thing you know.................

    My favorite story is the one from making the movie "Stir Crazy", Richard Pryor tells of meeting with bad asses in prison for background study, he met with a guy who had killed a house full of people, Pryor asked him why he killed everyone in the house. The reply was, "they was home"! That is "all" the logic it takes sometimes. Simple yet improbable. The game of trying to explain "weird shit" is a full time job after something like this. Keep the dialog open, along with your mind. Just remember that "shit happens"!

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  • Brutecraft
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    I still don't understand why people think banning guns would do anything?

    People smoke pot.. Pot is illegal.. People... still smoke pot?

    People rob banks.. Robbing banks is illegal.. People... still rob banks?

    People use guns to murder people.. Guns and murder is illegal... People... Use pencils to murder people?

    problem solved

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  • Nuusku
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    U.S. is the richest nations in gun deaths. Coincidence?

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by whalen
    would have, should have, could have, truth is "shit happens". 312 million Americans, "shit happens" more often. My take.
    Yah that's pretty much it. We got a big country and lots of whackos. Can't really do anything about it unfortunately. No laws will stop these things from taking place.

    It is odd though to see such an educated neuroscientist be the one to do this. I am eager to find out what his motivation was, and why he chose the whole batman thing as the venue. Perhaps violent comic books are to blame? Hurry, someone tell Joe so he can start lobbying to have government regulate comics!

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by Nuusku
    In that chaos you couldn't be sure. There was a firing scene in the movie once the shitlord started to shoot so no one first even realised that someone was shooting in the theater
    Well first of all we have to admit to the fact that this guy started off with a ****ing gas grenade and had a mask on and everything, so everyone in that theatre was probably ****ed anyways, regardless. The whole thing is that, often times in these scenarios, after the initial shootings are over, the person flees and is often time able to (until the cops find him). The idea is to shoot him as soon as is reasonably possible so as to prevent further mayhem on his behalf. Stopping the initial event of him shooting everyone up though would in this scenario be unrealistic because he had gas and came very prepared to do a quick hit and run. Even the military has trouble reacting in situations like that, but the idea is that he won't get away with it for long if someone is armed. If no one is armed, than he gets to shoot fish in a barrel until the cops arrive.

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  • Nuusku
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    Originally posted by sgreger1
    That's not exactly how these sorts of things play out. You a) wouldn't shoot anyone unless you know it was the shooter, that there was no living thing in his backdrop that may be hit with a stray bullet, etc etc. Again, trained armed people are what we are discussing, not just issuing everyone in america a gun and telling them to go stop crime.
    In that chaos you couldn't be sure. There was a firing scene in the movie once the shitlord started to shoot so no one first even realised that someone was shooting in the theater

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  • whalen
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    would have, should have, could have, truth is "shit happens". 312 million Americans, "shit happens" more often. My take.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by Nuusku
    Imagine if everyone had guns there? It would have been a war zone. Might have been even more victims when you think about it. First someone shoots the maniac, and someone sees the maniac being shot and thinks the guy who shot him is a maniac too
    That's not exactly how these sorts of things play out. You a) wouldn't shoot anyone unless you know it was the shooter, that there was no living thing in his backdrop that may be hit with a stray bullet, etc etc. Again, trained armed people are what we are discussing, not just issuing everyone in america a gun and telling them to go stop crime.

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  • whalen
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    Originally posted by Nuusku
    Imagine if everyone had guns there? It would have been a war zone. Might have been even more victims when you think about it. First someone shoots the maniac, and someone sees the maniac being shot and thinks the guy who shot him is a maniac too
    Truth to that! Reaction times and adrenalin and all, Some body farts and 300 die!

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