Ten killed in shooting at 'Dark Knight Rises' premiere: local radio

[sgreger1]

Yah a flak jacket isn't going to do shit. You are going to be out of commision after getting shot, and if someone hits you with a 45 than you are probably going to just lie there in pain until the ambulance comes anyways. The point is to neutralize them, and a flak jacket does not stop you from being neutralized. Also it only covers your upper torso, as though there weren't other places you could shoot.

It's just like 9-11. If one guy in there had had a weapon to fight back with than the lunatics with box cutters wouldn't have been in control.

[Nuusku]

Imagine if everyone had guns there? It would have been a war zone. Might have been even more victims when you think about it. First someone shoots the maniac, and someone sees the maniac being shot and thinks the guy who shot him is a maniac too

[truthwolf1]

It wouldn't have done shit. He used tear gas, riot helmet and flak jacket. Get real

When somebody fights back it throws the whole plan off as you can well see in a live situation with gramps. Flak armour cannot guarantee you will not be knocked on your ass and from one witness the shooter was shooting upwards from the bottom of theater which would give high ground the advantage.

Like somebody has already stated it is the mental illness of this country that we should take care of first before we start to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

What kind of drugs, big pharma medication will be in his toxicology report? is my big question.

[sgreger1]

Blow it out of your redneck ass. You have no solution. Kind of like the GOP.

Do our members in Europe feel less secure without a Second Amendment
that was written by old, white men with powered wigs?

Oh Joe, how I miss your bigoted rantings. Glad to see you back posting again.

Of course he must be a redneck for wanting to own guns. I guess everyone in seden are rednecks too. You are the one with no solution, your solution is dissapear all the guns which will never happen in a million years ever. And even then, they will just use something else, homemade explosives, chemical agents, whatever. Guns aren't the problem, whackos are the problem. By letting trained people legally carry a concealed firearm we have a chance to neutralize these whackos before they complete their rampage. That is really the only solution. Saying "let's make crime and guns and everything illegal" sounds nice but is not an actual plan since it is more impossible than whitney Houston taking her lips of the crack pipe.

[Joe234]

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Theater shooting suspect was graduate student at Colorado medical school

By Pete Williams, Bill Dedman and NBC News staff

The man suspected of carrying out the Colorado movie theater shooting, wearing a Batman-like outfit of black ballistic gear, was a 24-year-old Phi Beta Kappa graduate student in neuroscience.
James Eagan Holmes, from San Diego, was a graduate student in the neuroscience program at the University of Colorado Medical School campus in Aurora, a university spokesman told NBC News. He was in the process of withdrawing from school, the university confirmed.

NBC News

James Holmes, the suspect in the Aurora, Colo. movie theater shooting.


"The University of Colorado Denver Anschutz Medical Campus can confirm that Mr. James Holmes was in the process of withdrawing from the University of Colorado Denver's graduate program in neurosciences," the university statement said. "Mr. Holmes enrolled at the university in June 2011."
The university website listed one of his courses as the Biological Basis of Psychiatric and Neurological Disorders. He was listed on the class website as making apresentation in the spring on MicroRNA biomarkers.

[Joe234]

Never let a tragedy go to waste, huh Joe. Way to politicize these deaths before the bodies are even cold. Your Masters have taught you well.

What would you propose? Everyone say they are so sorry and move on? What a tragedy, boo hooo.

[Joe234]

This is some seriously sad and sadistic shit right here! This man HAD to be completely insane, it is to bad official's were not able to stop him before he went on his rampage.

My heart goes out to the families who had to be involved in this tragic scenario.

As to the ****ING ASSHOLES on this board who decided to drag this god awful news into a political debate, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do you think the grieving families are blaming the NRA for their dead children? or the lunatic? easy answer right their folks...

Our second amendment was created by our forefather's many generations ago, their insightful thinking as allowed millions of American's to be able to protect themselves against the tyranny of this world. I will always wear my NRA insignia on my jacket, the only way you will take my guns from me, is to pry them from my cold dead fingers.

If a trained individual was concealing his firearm earlier this morning, there is a good chance this scenario would of ended differently.

Always remember, a armed society, is a polite society.

Blow it out of your redneck ass. You have no solution. Kind of like the GOP.

Do our members in Europe feel less secure without a Second Amendment
that was written by old, white men with powered wigs?

[sgreger1]

This is some seriously sad and sadistic shit right here! This man HAD to be completely insane, it is to bad official's were not able to stop him before he went on his rampage.

My heart goes out to the families who had to be involved in this tragic scenario.

As to the ****ING ASSHOLES on this board who decided to drag this god awful news into a political debate, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do you think the grieving families are blaming the NRA for their dead children? or the lunatic? easy answer right their folks...

Our second amendment was created by our forefather's many generations ago, their insightful thinking as allowed millions of American's to be able to protect themselves against the tyranny of this world. I will always wear my NRA insignia on my jacket, the only way you will take my guns from me, is to pry them from my cold dead fingers.

If a trained individual was concealing his firearm earlier this morning, there is a good chance this scenario would of ended differently.

Always remember, a armed society, is a polite society.

Amen to that! Also I love your signature pic, Dirt Hippies: Democracy. Unwashed. lolol, classic.

[Joe234]

Congrats to the NRA dildos? Ohh C,MON.

I would say thank the NRA for heroes like this below. Look at those little f$ckers trip over one another running out the door. Too bad somebody like this was not in the theater in these violent times with criminals who pack guns.

It wouldn't have done shit. He used tear gas, riot helmet and flak jacket. Get real

[Chigger]

To those who think stricter gun control is the answer to stopping tragedies like this... Do you think his firearms were legal? I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing not. I don't want to live in a world where only the criminals and unstable wackos have guns.

[Dirty Hippy]

This is some seriously sad and sadistic shit right here! This man HAD to be completely insane, it is to bad official's were not able to stop him before he went on his rampage.

My heart goes out to the families who had to be involved in this tragic scenario.

As to the ****ING ASSHOLES on this board who decided to drag this god awful news into a political debate, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Do you think the grieving families are blaming the NRA for their dead children? or the lunatic? easy answer right their folks...

Our second amendment was created by our forefather's many generations ago, their insightful thinking as allowed millions of American's to be able to protect themselves against the tyranny of this world. I will always wear my NRA insignia on my jacket, the only way you will take my guns from me, is to pry them from my cold dead fingers.

If a trained individual was concealing his firearm earlier this morning, there is a good chance this scenario would of ended differently.

Always remember, a armed society, is a polite society.

[sgreger1]

Congrats to the NRA. Keep up the good works dildos.

Okay **** that Joe, the NRA did not kill these people, a lunatic did. If the NRA had it's way, everyone in that theatre would have been armed and those people wouldn't have been helpless to defend themselves. Now in this particular scenario, with gas grenades and masks etc, everyone was pretty much farked from the beginning, even if it was a room of armed navy seals. In an unexpected attack like that there will be victims.
Given the constant that crazies will always exist, it is best to have a system wherin people can acknowledge this threat and be prepared to defend themselves when faced with it. The idea of taking guns away from everyone (which i'm sure the thought of makes your mouth salivate) is what causes situations like this, where everyone is helpless and just gets mowed down in a crowd with no recourse. There's a reason the police have firearms, it's because firearms are good at stopping lunatic shooters from continuing their rampage.

[Darwin]

What the eternally aggrieved anti-gun folks will never admit is that this sort of thing is possible even if we lived under an all-encompassing and total dictatorship that made ownership of a firearm punishible by summary execution. Even the wildest freedom crushing fever dreams of the most aggressive anti-gunners have zero chance of expunging the presence of firearms from this society. There is no remotely practical way for this to ever happen. If only state approved hunting weapons were available then that's what would be used. Even if the only legal firearms were muzzle loading arquebusses some sick bastard would figure out how to make this sort of disgusting mayhem happen. In a sick society, and an even sicker world, even the most intensely draconian regulation of any supposed means of mass harm will have little effect on perpetrators eager unto death to achieve it. It's as if we had banned the use of airliners after 9/11 because of their capacity for harm.

And in that particularly grotesque incidence one may note that not a single firearm was used to cause the deaths of 3000 people. If anyone at all thinks that the banning of any sort of firearm, or the heavy regulation thereof, will mean incidents such as this will not occur in future, or are even slightly less likely, then they are far beyond delusional.

[devilock76]

Not sure about that. Two different scenarios. One was kids trying to rob a place with supposedly a rusty gun that was not loaded. They were there for loot not blood. The movie theater however he was there to kill with multiple guns and using tear gas and supposedly gas mask. Even if someone was armed the shooter had a huge tactical advantage that would be quite a lot for even military personnel trained in urban combat to overcome. The ugly fact is whenever anything like this happens the two extremes of the gun debate come out, those who want everyone unarmed and unable to protect themselves, and of course the wannabe John Rambos, which is more dangerous is debatable.

What is a fact is far more people were killed in 2001 via some box cutters and far more were killed in Oklahoma City via chemicals any of us could buy today at the average Home Depot. In short ban guns all you want, nothing will stop a person determined to kill without seriously destroying the freedoms we preach of...

Ken