The lack of respect and the decline of today's society. (RANT)

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  • Thunder_Snus
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    I blame reality T.V. shows. I hear people talk more about what happened on jersey shore (trash american tv show featuring idiots) than their own lives.
    I'm 20 but I'd like to say I am one of the few who does not act the way you describe. My parents raised me well. The only mistake I made was starting to use tobacco.

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  • Roo
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    Actually Hitler was pretty highly involved in a eugenics plan and the party forced abortions and sterilizations on people deemed to have "genetic flaws", anything the party deemed undesirable. I bet you can guess what was "desirable". But that is far removed from the point. It was indeed an absurd statement for myriad reasons.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by precious007
    Don't get me wrong not all Americans are cuckoos, there are good people in the U.S as are everywhere. But on a large scale they're cuckoos, everyone has cuckoos but America has been a free contry for a long time, felony was everywhere etc... compared to other countries.
    Ephemeris
    you reject who? The Germans?


    We don't have any more cooko's than any other region encompasing 350 million people. Our felony rate isn't any higher here than it is anywhere else. In fact our firearms laws have reduced felonies relative to places like the UK. We are a very diverse group of people from all over the world, spread out into 50 different terretories under one union. It is impossible to make blanket statements about Americans because there are just too many people. CA is like a different country relative to Alabama for example.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by Ephemeris
    We, as Americans, are all familiar with the tenants of Communism that you've just listed. Which is precisely why our "cuckoo" country rejects each and every one of them.

    @Fazer, I pretty much agree with everything you wrote. I however feel that people should be free to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home. You want to get drunk and wreck your car? It should be legal as long as you do it in your yard. You want to smoke crack and be useless? Fine again, just don't rely on my tax dollars to fund your hobby. Also, giving the government the right to kill its citizenry is a scary thought, which is why I disapprove of the death penalty.

    Bingo. Could not have said it better myself.

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  • sgreger1
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    To further elaborate:

    You know why german people are as "SHARP" as a knife?

    because their genetics come from people who lived under hittler
    That was only two or so generations ago, I doubt Hitler's short run had any effect on anyones genetics. Their culture may have been effected though, which is why they are how they are.

    if in the 70-80-90's in Romania you'd insult a patient

    you'd be in jail
    That's horrible, why would you want the governmenty intervening and putting people in jail for that? What's worse is that jails are expensive and don't really fix peoples problems.

    if you'd make an abortion you'd be in jail
    From a woman's rights perspective, this is attrocious. Why should the government decide whether a woman carries a child to term or not?

    if you'd insulted a police man you'd be dead
    So brutal police states are a good thing? Who will police the police? Who watches the watchers? Why give that much power to any one group of enforcers?

    if you insulted your parents you'd be grounded
    It's still that way here in America.

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  • devilock76
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    Originally posted by precious007
    Don't get me wrong not all Americans are cuckoos, there are good people in the U.S as are everywhere. But on a large scale they're cuckoos, everyone has cuckoos but America has been a free contry for a long time, felony was everywhere etc... compared to other countries.
    Ephemeris
    you reject who? The Germans?


    Most of Americas "felons" are related to the ridiculous war on drugs that makes the simple possession of a substance a felony. We are not talking about violent offenders here for the most part.

    Ken

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  • Roo
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    Originally posted by Ephemeris
    We, as Americans, are all familiar with the tenants of Communism that you've just listed. Which is precisely why our "cuckoo" country rejects each and every one of them.
    Bravo. Precious the amount of shit you are filled with grows with each and every post.

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by precious007
    @sgreger1

    I'm not debating this

    but you have not lived in communism

    America is a country full of cuckoos believe me

    I have lived in communism, communism meant order, discipline and RESPECT

    people were respectful at that time, same as in England

    You know why german people are as "SHARP" as a knife?

    because their genetics come from people who lived under hittler

    if in the 70-80-90's in Romania you'd insult a patient

    you'd be in jail

    if you'd make an abortion you'd be in jail

    if you'd insulted a police man you'd be dead

    if you insulted your parents you'd be grounded

    if you want RESPECT you need DISCIPLINE

    and I'l all for the above :-)

    and you can only have discipline by punishment, law and bills

    because today your life is just as insecure as it gets, I mean you don't even know how insecure it is until you come over to a serious issue, either with the law, birocracy, health, coruption and so on.

    they tell you that you can secure your life - (by making you SECURING their lifes, paying htorugh the nose to an insurance company), lol, democracy my ass, this is the New World Order people are blind to see it



    I'm not all for communism but still, we had respect back then



    ok

    I'm not debating just telling you something that you are not familiar with

    But communism (or fascism, as was the case with Hitler), accomplish this level of discipline through a brutal state presence. Like you said, if you get out of line you are jailed.

    You are the first person of the many people I know who lived through communism in Russia etc that had a positive view of it. Most of them that I know fled to the US to escape it, and didn't ahve ncie things to say. Most countries who instituted some form of communism have crumbled over the years, whilst those who have more of a capitalistic system seem to have prospered. We can say the US sucks all we want, but the US has prospered relative to Russia or Cuba or anywhere else. Even China, infamous "communists" by name, are making a comeback on the world stage via capitalism. They also do the whole intrusive state presence thing, which is why they aren't #1.


    The issue is a budgeting one really. We need to provide for those in true need (i.e. a safety blanket), but we don't want to breed a culture that encourages people living off the government dole.

    No country has actually had had pure, real communism, nor has any had pure, real capitalism. Usually the government messes it up one way or another and just uses the term "communism" or "capitalism" to seize power and oppress the people.

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  • Ephemeris
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    @precious, exactly what I said, I reject communism and its tenents.

    I'm really curious though, what makes us a nation of cuckoos? That we have unparalleled freedom to do pretty much whatever we want, say what we want, think what we want, worship what we want and screw who we want? Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of stupid Americans here who have no idea how lucky they are to live here.

    There's also a lot of problems within our borders- we have a tendency to want the government to rule us like a mother and each year we lose a tiny bit of our freedom. We also have a jingoistic desire to make all other countries confirm to our code of conduct.

    But overall it seems that your argument is that we're cuckoo for freedom and capitalism. If you're Marxist, that's fine, but you shouldn't label an entire country stupid or crazy because we're not under a communist dictatorship. I mean, if you're longing for that type of system then Cuba, North Korea, Laos and China should welcome you with open arms.

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  • precious007
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    Don't get me wrong not all Americans are cuckoos, there are good people in the U.S as are everywhere. But on a large scale they're cuckoos, everyone has cuckoos but America has been a free contry for a long time, felony was everywhere etc... compared to other countries.
    Ephemeris
    you reject who? The Germans?


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  • Ephemeris
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    Originally posted by precious007
    @sgreger1

    I'm not debating this

    but you have not lived in communism

    America is a country full of cuckoos believe me

    I have lived in communism, communism meant order, discipline and RESPECT

    people were respectful at that time, same as in England

    You know why german people are as "SHARP" as a knife?

    because their genetics come from people who lived under hittler

    if in the 70-80-90's in Romania you'd insult a patient

    you'd be in jail

    if you'd make an abortion you'd be in jail

    if you'd insulted a police man you'd be dead

    if you insulted your parents you'd be grounded

    if you want RESPECT you need DISCIPLINE

    and you can only have discipline by punishment, law and bills

    I'm not all for communism but still, we had respect back then


    ok

    I'm not debating just telling you something that you are not familiar with

    We, as Americans, are all familiar with the tenants of Communism that you've just listed. Which is precisely why our "cuckoo" country rejects each and every one of them.

    @Fazer, I pretty much agree with everything you wrote. I however feel that people should be free to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own home. You want to get drunk and wreck your car? It should be legal as long as you do it in your yard. You want to smoke crack and be useless? Fine again, just don't rely on my tax dollars to fund your hobby. Also, giving the government the right to kill its citizenry is a scary thought, which is why I disapprove of the death penalty.

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  • precious007
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    @sgreger1

    I'm not debating this

    but you have not lived in communism

    America is a country full of cuckoos believe me

    I have lived in communism, communism meant order, discipline and RESPECT

    people were respectful at that time, same as in England

    You know why german people are as "SHARP" as a knife?

    because their genetics come from people who lived under hittler

    if in the 70-80-90's in Romania you'd insult a patient

    you'd be in jail

    if you'd make an abortion you'd be in jail

    if you'd insulted a police man you'd be dead

    if you insulted your parents you'd be grounded

    if you want RESPECT you need DISCIPLINE

    and I'l all for the above :-)

    and you can only have discipline by punishment, law and bills

    because today your life is just as insecure as it gets, I mean you don't even know how insecure it is until you come over to a serious issue, either with the law, birocracy, health, coruption and so on.

    they tell you that you can secure your life - (by making you SECURING their lifes, paying htorugh the nose to an insurance company), lol, democracy my ass, this is the New World Order people are blind to see it



    I'm not all for communism but still, we had respect back then



    ok

    I'm not debating just telling you something that you are not familiar with

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  • sgreger1
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    Originally posted by precious007
    lmao, Fazer


    this is an endemic

    you see why communism is better?

    people understand democracy the wrong way.

    now you wanted democracy, you have democracy.

    if I start on this subject I need another Forum started

    Snuson wouldn't have enough storage space to let my words out

    I see my girlfriend's KID demanding his poor unemeployed mom to buy all the crap in the world

    Even shouting at her, demanding to buy a specific kind of bike and tenis raquet when he doesn't even deserve them?

    Lmao if my dad was alive he would have would have been petrified of this attitude of children today

    If I behaved like this with my dad, I sure would have slept on the kitchen sofa daily lmao

    /rant
    Maybe I'm misreading what you said, but are you saying communism would make any of these problems better? Communism is the epitome of all the problems he listed. The whole concept of living off the government and the "benefits" culture are very communist in their nature, in fact it is the communist portions of countries like the UK that make it so ****ed.

    All the evil capitalist grandparents in America used to go by the saying that "Life isn't fair, and no one owes you anything. You have to go take what you want (as in work for it)".

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  • Bigblue1
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    Originally posted by Fazer
    lmao, omg ... Did i really do that I guess i should keep away from care homes, i'm not going to edit that because it's funny
    Props fazer for owning up to it. I was fairly certain you were going to blame it on "using a mobile device" or the ever popular "it was the auto correct". Good job mate.....

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  • precious007
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    Sgreger

    I don't think it's alcohol

    I am very respecful even when I am dead drunk

    I control myself believe me


    sarcasm is the only thing you'd see at me when I'm drunk

    well whoever understand my sarcasm

    especially nope not with people much older than me

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