The lack of respect and the decline of today's society. (RANT)

[Thunder_Snus]

Lol, bro that sounds awefull! Two condoms? Good lord, can you even feel anything? That's hardcore man, hard ****ing core.

lol one condom but girlfriend is on birth control. thats what i meant by dual use. And they're quite nice thin condoms. I buy them on amazon in 100 packs for like 20 bucks and no theyre not shitty ive never had one break on me. i used to pay about that much for a pack of trojans

[sgreger1]

if one of my condoms broke (yep dual use, yes i dont want children)

Lol, bro that sounds awefull! Two condoms? Good lord, can you even feel anything? That's hardcore man, hard ****ing core.

[sgreger1]

If Pearl Harbor never happened we may have never entered WWII. And if we did it may have been a last choice in self defense. We were implementing the same policies here to a degree both before and during the war.

Ken

Actually you are correct, the US was into Eugenics until it became not cool since the germans were doing it. Not that we ever went to the lengths the Germans did or anything. We didn't fight them because of their eugenics policies really, so on that point I stand corrected and take it back. The point was that I don't believe in forced sterilization.

[whalen]

"Stupid is as Stupid does" - Forest Gump .................I rest my case.

[sgreger1]

I don't think you understand the terms properly. IQ or intelligent quotient in quick simple terms does not test how smart a person is. What it tests (and poorly at that, standardized or not) is the ability for someone to attain knowledge, as in how fact you can absorb a new concept. So if you have a high IQ but never do anything with it you will still be stupid. And someone with an average or even low IQ could learn particle physics but it will take longer and more work. In short it is the rate at which someone can attain and recall and apply knowledge. What most people call "smart" in society or "intelligent" is usually a reflection of perceived knowledge.

But here is the thing IQ can change. Your brain can age and not be challenged and it gets lower. Additionally the brain can be trained like any muscle and the synapsis and neurons learn to fire faster and make better connections.

But even more so IQ has no determination on your contribution to society, there are people out there with high IQ's doing crime and/or menial jobs, and there are people with low IQ's doing charity work or in positions of power and prestige.

Ken

Don't even bother. Precious genuinely believes that an IQ test is a DIRECT measure of intelligence and that he is clearly more intelligent than everyone here. He is SO intelligent in fact that he can not even comprehend it when I try to explain that IQ quotient tests, like many other standardized or non-standardized tests, are not a good measure of ACTUAL intelligence. Everyone knows this, we just use IQ tests because it's the closest, most consistent thing we have to measure general intelligence, but a high score != an truly intelligent person, nor does a lower score mean someone is stupid.

What precious doesn't know could fill a whole book. And, to quote Reagan, it's not that Precious doesn't know anything, it's just that he knows so much that isn't true.

[truthwolf1]

How bout this. Every male receives a vasectomy when they're born. This process cannot be reversed until someone is 21(just an example age could be whatever). Teenage pregnancies would be eliminated unless caused by 35 year old pedo's. No accidental pregnancies unless there is a large gap between the male and female in age. People would have to decide they want to have children and get that vasectomy reversed. Reverse vasectomy has about a 64% success rate if i remember correctly. Right there HALF of potential pregnancies are eliminated and the population is reduced. No jobs but many people looking? Boom gone.

I think the thing with stupid people having children is more educated people take advantage of birth control and plan their families more carefully rather than "shit think im pregnant."

It's just a thought, call me stupid or whatever you want I can handle it.

I actually agree to a point that something needs to be done about overpopulation. It almost makes me wonder if that process has not already been started with secret Eugenics programs or just a natural human thinning of the herd scenario. People are dropping like flies left and right. Disease have risen quite rampant. I also know many women who have had 3 or more stillbirths.

[devilock76]

Precious, the fact you keep claiming how intelligent you are (even above intelligent!) directly disproves your claims. It has long been known and studied that truly intelligent and competent individuals tend to underevaluate their level of intelligence, i.e. truly intelligent people always think they aren't smart enoughh, while idiots frequently believe they are intelligent. Guess which group you fall into.

It's like singers, a lot more people think they can sing, much fewer actually can.

The actual people who rate above average are a small group. The people who claim to be above average well by numbers would make up the average. If those people had at least taken a course in statistics they would know you can't all be "above average".

Ken

[sgreger1]

I would be ashemed to make that post you made earlier lmao, basically I can't stop laughing at what you've just said =))



learn what intelligence is, and then we can discuss more on the subject.

What post are you referring to? Which one should I be ashamed of?


And I know what a ****ing IQ test is, I am saying that it is agreed that it is not necessarily a good measure of ACTUAL intelligence, but rather effort. Just like the standardized SAT exams we take here in the US to get into colleges isn't really a good measure of how smart you are or what you know, but rather just a measure of how good you are at memorizing and repeating certain snippets of information for the test.


Precious, the fact you keep claiming how intelligent you are (even above intelligent!) directly disproves your claims. It has long been known and studied that truly intelligent and competent individuals tend to underevaluate their level of intelligence, i.e. truly intelligent people always think they aren't smart enoughh, while idiots frequently believe they are intelligent. Guess which group you fall into.

[devilock76]

The second quote you listed about sterilization was not written by me, I am very against forced sterilization, so please do not attribute it to me. When the nazis were enforcing eugenics, we fought them, and we would gladly do the same again. It has nothing to do with fear, it has to do with the fact that it is an inherent right of the human species to be able to have children, and no government should be able to stop them.

If Pearl Harbor never happened we may have never entered WWII. And if we did it may have been a last choice in self defense. We were implementing the same policies here to a degree both before and during the war.

Ken

[devilock76]

Do you not see that sgregrer doesn't even know what intelligence is?

:-)

I should have been out of the discussion way from the very start, but I like playin' around sometimes with people like sgreger that are trying to reinvent the wheel.

As I pointed out to you, I don't think you do.

Ken

[devilock76]

Sgreger, go to sleep buddy

An intelligence quotient, or IQ, is a score derived from one of several different standardized tests designed to assess intelligence.





you're trying to reinvent the wheel it ain't working buddy

not with me anyways

I would be ashemed to make that post you made earlier lmao, basically I can't stop laughing at what you've just said =))



learn what intelligence is, and then we can discuss more on the subject.

I don't think you understand the terms properly. IQ or intelligent quotient in quick simple terms does not test how smart a person is. What it tests (and poorly at that, standardized or not) is the ability for someone to attain knowledge, as in how fast you can absorb a new concept. So if you have a high IQ but never do anything with it you will still be stupid. And someone with an average or even low IQ could learn particle physics but it will take longer and more work. In short it is the rate at which someone can attain and recall and apply knowledge. What most people call "smart" in society or "intelligent" is usually a reflection of perceived knowledge.

But here is the thing IQ can change. Your brain can age and not be challenged and it gets lower. Additionally the brain can be trained like any muscle and the synapsis and neurons learn to fire faster and make better connections.

But even more so IQ has no determination on your contribution to society, there are people out there with high IQ's doing crime and/or menial jobs, and there are people with low IQ's doing charity work or in positions of power and prestige.

Ken

[Thunder_Snus]

I apologize. These were just rough numbers running through my head. The point was. Make people make the commitment to have kids. Go get that vasectomy reversed. I dont want children. I would love if I wasn't terrified at times if my girlfriend was taking her pill or if one of my condoms broke (yep dual use, yes i dont want children) Some people just keep having kids and some people dont get an education because they have children early.

Vascetomys have a 64% rate according to you, so you would immediately cut 26% of the population from having kids? That means a cumulative reduction of 26% in population, per each generation? This is of course on top of those who are naturally sterile, those who will chose to not have kids etc. So potentially 4-50% of the population reduced with each generation? That sucks.

Also, no medical profesional would okay giving vasectomys to babies.



It is a fact that birth rates go down as education rates go up. Therefore, the solution to all of this, as well as the world population problem, is to encourage education. As they become more educated they will stop having so many kids, and there will be less stupid people due to education. But it is a bad idea to just sterilize or otherwise remove "less smart" people from the population for a variety of reasons, the largest of which is because we need people to flip our burgers and clean our toilets. Oh, and people who flip burgers aren't stupid either, that is more of a economic thing, some people can't afford college or don't go for other reasons.

[sgreger1]

Good spotting :-)








Otherwise...

Both of these quotesm, clearly show ignorance, immorality, fear and whatever but you name it.



Too much negative vibes here.

And to top it all I don't see why people are so impulsive to make some false statements and then not even recognize their mistake.

I'm out.

The second quote you listed about sterilization was not written by me, I am very against forced sterilization, so please do not attribute it to me. When the nazis were enforcing eugenics, we fought them, and we would gladly do the same again. It has nothing to do with fear, it has to do with the fact that it is an inherent right of the human species to be able to have children, and no government should be able to stop them.

[precious007]

I think this is what most are pondering with regards to your posts.

Ken

Do you not see that sgregrer doesn't even know what intelligence is?

:-)

I should have been out of the discussion way from the very start, but I like playin' around sometimes with people like sgreger that are trying to reinvent the wheel.

You were saying that communism was better in the old days because people would be jailed for having abortions, talking back to the cops etc, hence you are advocating for an oppressive government to enforce a fake "respect" via fear tactics. In America respect is EARNED, not issued.

You took things way too seriously sgreger ;-)

I am partially for communism, for your own information purely because of the respect between people that you clearly don't have, not because innocent people were killed.

[sgreger1]

How bout this. Every male receives a vasectomy when they're born. This process cannot be reversed until someone is 21(just an example age could be whatever). Teenage pregnancies would be eliminated unless caused by 35 year old pedo's. No accidental pregnancies unless there is a large gap between the male and female in age. People would have to decide they want to have children and get that vasectomy reversed. Reverse vasectomy has about a 64% success rate if i remember correctly. Right there HALF of potential pregnancies are eliminated and the population is reduced. No jobs but many people looking? Boom gone.

I think the thing with stupid people having children is more educated people take advantage of birth control and plan their families more carefully rather than "shit think im pregnant."

It's just a thought, call me stupid or whatever you want I can handle it.

Vascetomys have a 64% rate according to you, so you would immediately cut 26% of the population from having kids? That means a cumulative reduction of 26% in population, per each generation? This is of course on top of those who are naturally sterile, those who will chose to not have kids etc. So potentially 4-50% of the population reduced with each generation? That sucks.

Also, no medical profesional would okay giving vasectomys to babies.

I think the thing with stupid people having children is more educated people take advantage of birth control and plan their families more carefully rather than "shit think im pregnant."

It is a fact that birth rates go down as education rates go up. Therefore, the solution to all of this, as well as the world population problem, is to encourage education. As they become more educated they will stop having so many kids, and there will be less stupid people due to education. But it is a bad idea to just sterilize or otherwise remove "less smart" people from the population for a variety of reasons, the largest of which is because we need people to flip our burgers and clean our toilets. Oh, and people who flip burgers aren't stupid either, that is more of a economic thing, some people can't afford college or don't go for other reasons.