Netflix to raise prices come september 5th

[snusgetter]

Perhaps USPS can help make up the difference by shipping tobacco.

Unfortunately that would take an act of Congress since
they instituted the USPS tobacco ban as part of the CRAP-Act!!

[texastorm]

After some more thought I am more confused than ever.

Lets say you mainly stream.... now you drop the dvd part and NF loses your 2+ bucks for the 1 dvd out.

Or

Maybe you prefer the dvd and now you drop the streaming and you actually save money, the 2+ bucks you were spending on streaming.

So customers (at least those on the base plan) who choose to drop the service they use the least will now save money.

And yet that article claims NF shares went up, even though a price drop of 2 bucks per customer (again only for base) + the loss of confused customers is actually going to cost them, at least in the short term.



All that makes my head hurt and sounds like a horrible business move.

[desirexe]

Try thinking when you are drunk and typing with one eye oppen! I think what netflix is assumingis that many people are gonna drop the dvd option and just go with streaming, thus savig the company in postal fees. But, hell I duno,. i dont even uses netflix, so no biggie to me.
Gnight! This is my weekly druken post!

[devilock76]

After some more thought I am more confused than ever.

Lets say you mainly stream.... now you drop the dvd part and NF loses your 2+ bucks for the 1 dvd out.

Or

Maybe you prefer the dvd and now you drop the streaming and you actually save money, the 2+ bucks you were spending on streaming.

So customers (at least those on the base plan) who choose to drop the service they use the least will now save money.

And yet that article claims NF shares went up, even though a price drop of 2 bucks per customer (again only for base) + the loss of confused customers is actually going to cost them, at least in the short term.



All that makes my head hurt and sounds like a horrible business move.

It is losing money till you figure the postage expenses they might save by people going streaming only and the reduced need for multiple copies of some titles due to needing to send less physical media.

Ken

[jmdkodiak]

Here is what I don't get about all the "new" movie and TV technology...

It used to be, that you went to Blockbuster and rented a new release, if there were no new releases you had rows and rows and rows of older, GOOD movies to watch.

If you wanted something to do for the afternoon you could always go rent a movie, and order a pizza and spend the afternoon at home.

NOW, fast forward to Netflix, Hulu, and Redbox, What do we have? A demand with no supply.

For example, me and my girlfriend wanted to watch Dodgeball the other week. We went to Blockbuster (which was closing down and selling all of their stock, btw), and they didn't have it. So naturally we thought "well hell, this is 2011! We don't need to stinkin B&M movie store"

and proceeded straight to netflix. Which, didn't have the movie streaming (it seems all the streaming movies are independent, foreign, from the 80s and earlier, or just plain suck!). They did have it available on DVD, but how many people really plan on what movie they want to watch days in advance in time to order and receive in the mail said movie? My guess is not many. So we check Red Box, again, nothing. Red Box's supply is very limited and only keeps DVDs in its rotation for short periods of time, and mainly new releases (and kids movies around where I live).

So, where does that leave the consumer? If you want to watch a movie you either A, suck it up and wait a couple days to order it from Netflix or the like. B, you go to Best Buy and BUY the movie (if THEY even have it). C, you pirate it from torrent.

I mean, how come now a days we don't have the option of watching a specific movie within an afternoons notice?

That in itself was worth the admission price of Blockbuster's $4 fee to keep a movie for a couple days. So, why is blockbuster dying? Am I alone on this thought? Is this just a niche category that I find myself in? Do people not care what they watch?

Netflix is great for their documentaries, independent movies, (certain) TV shows etc. But with the price hike and lack of/low quality content, I dunno if I want to keep it...

Even the other day I noticed they dropped Dexter from the streaming category. Why? Seems ludacris! I truly don't understand the new age of TV and movie rentals, of both the businesses and the consumers.

[Veganpunk]

I saw that email. Screw Netflix. I think I'm gonna switch to Hulu.

[jmdkodiak]

I saw that email. Screw Netflix. I think I'm gonna switch to Hulu.

What's the difference? Can you watch Hulu on an actual TV or do you have to buy some sort of hardware? Do they have good movies and programs, or just TV?

edit: Nevermind. Just read up on hulu plus. What a joke! Only TV programs? No movies?? And it has commercials?

Meh. I'll stick with Netflix: the lesser of two evils.

[devilock76]

Here is what I don't get about all the "new" movie and TV technology...

It used to be, that you went to Blockbuster and rented a new release, if there were no new releases you had rows and rows and rows of older, GOOD movies to watch.

If you wanted something to do for the afternoon you could always go rent a movie, and order a pizza and spend the afternoon at home.

NOW, fast forward to Netflix, Hulu, and Redbox, What do we have? A demand with no supply.

For example, me and my girlfriend wanted to watch Dodgeball the other week. We went to Blockbuster (which was closing down and selling all of their stock, btw), and they didn't have it. So naturally we thought "well hell, this is 2011! We don't need to stinkin B&M movie store"

and proceeded straight to netflix. Which, didn't have the movie streaming (it seems all the streaming movies are independent, foreign, from the 80s and earlier, or just plain suck!). They did have it available on DVD, but how many people really plan on what movie they want to watch days in advance in time to order and receive in the mail said movie? My guess is not many. So we check Red Box, again, nothing. Red Box's supply is very limited and only keeps DVDs in its rotation for short periods of time, and mainly new releases (and kids movies around where I live).

So, where does that leave the consumer? If you want to watch a movie you either A, suck it up and wait a couple days to order it from Netflix or the like. B, you go to Best Buy and BUY the movie (if THEY even have it). C, you pirate it from torrent.

I mean, how come now a days we don't have the option of watching a specific movie within an afternoons notice?

That in itself was worth the admission price of Blockbuster's $4 fee to keep a movie for a couple days. So, why is blockbuster dying? Am I alone on this thought? Is this just a niche category that I find myself in? Do people not care what they watch?

Netflix is great for their documentaries, independent movies, (certain) TV shows etc. But with the price hike and lack of/low quality content, I dunno if I want to keep it...

Even the other day I noticed they dropped Dexter from the streaming category. Why? Seems ludacris! I truly don't understand the new age of TV and movie rentals, of both the businesses and the consumers.

Did you check to see if you could rent it or even buy it through Itunes or Amazon VOD? I found it on Amazon VOD in 2 seconds, to rent for $2.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Dodgeball-True...0739357&sr=1-1

Ken

[truthwolf1]

Actually the price does not seem so bad when you have been paying for cable all these years.

[jmdkodiak]

Did you check to see if you could rent it or even buy it through Itunes or Amazon VOD? I found it on Amazon VOD in 2 seconds, to rent for $2.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Dodgeball-True...0739357&sr=1-1

Ken

How do you watch it on a TV? I have a Wii, and a DVD player, how do you watch Amazon VOD or something on a TV?

[lxskllr]

Even the other day I noticed they dropped Dexter from the streaming category. Why? Seems ludacris! I truly don't understand the new age of TV and movie rentals, of both the businesses and the consumers.

Someone probably noticed it was popular, and yanked it until they can figure out how to extract more money from the people. The content producers don't want to give up anything. They want all concessions to come from the consumer. I think a service That charged a low monthly rate ~$5, and then charged ~50¢ for every streaming rental would be popular. Everybody wins, but no one gets rich. The customer watches what he wants, and the content producers make money instead of losing it to torrents. They'll lose some on the newest releases, but make it back on the old stuff.

The old days are old, and there's no going back. The balance of power has shifted, and the studios can either play with the new rules, or get left behind. The smart ones will play.

[devilock76]

How do you watch it on a TV? I have a Wii, and a DVD player, how do you watch Amazon VOD or something on a TV?

Well me personally I have a connection set to send my computer screen to the TV. Suck a device costs less than $20 depending on the format. Mine is just component connection. Many laptops though have S-Video out as well as HDMI.

There are also wireless setups for that. However what I plan to get is the Roku player when I cut the satellite feed in a couple of months. That will give you the more TV feel to such internet content.

http://www.roku.com/

Another option is of course Apple TV. A friend of mine has that and likes it. But he also has numerous Mac computers. Apple TV is good, but I think it really shines when you already have a network of Mac's in the house and are a big itunes user. I am more of an Amazon user and have been a big supporter of them for a while.

Ken

[devilock76]

Someone probably noticed it was popular, and yanked it until they can figure out how to extract more money from the people. The content producers don't want to give up anything. They want all concessions to come from the consumer. I think a service That charged a low monthly rate ~$5, and then charged ~50¢ for every streaming rental would be popular. Everybody wins, but no one gets rich. The customer watches what he wants, and the content producers make money instead of losing it to torrents. They'll lose some on the newest releases, but make it back on the old stuff.

The old days are old, and there's no going back. The balance of power has shifted, and the studios can either play with the new rules, or get left behind. The smart ones will play.

It seems to me the Video industry is learning the lessons the Music industry should have learned from the modern internet consumer 10+ years ago.

Ken

[lxskllr]

It seems to me the Video industry is learning the lessons the Music industry should have learned from the modern internet consumer 10+ years ago.

Ken

Yea, they're learning, but it's painfully slow.

[devilock76]

Yea, they're learning, but it's painfully slow.

For monolithic and goliath industries like that, slow is typical.

Ken