Casey Anthony found not guilty.. Wait what?

[devilock76]

Because we do know a few details about this particular case or we think we do there seems to be more of a human element to it which makes it more distressing...

According to the internet apparently people know more than the prosecutor, jurors, and judge. Fact is we love a witch trial, a stoning, public hanging, lynching, you name it. We always have and we always will. We are a blood thirsty species.

Ken

[Ansel]

According to the internet apparently people know more than the prosecutor, jurors, and judge. Fact is we love a witch trial, a stoning, public hanging, lynching, you name it. We always have and we always will. We are a blood thirsty species.

Ken

Whether the precutor, jurors, and judge were right or not i admit to not knowing but she did from my limited knowledge seem callous regardless of her guilt or non-guilt, which is the bit that gets me.

[devilock76]

Whether the precutor, jurors, and judge were right or not i admit to not knowing but she did from my limited knowledge seem callous regardless of her guilt or non-guilt, which is the bit that gets me.

Of course based on the barely in context if at all media snippets you were fed, right?

Ken

[Ansel]

Of course based on the barely in context if at all media snippets you were fed, right?

Ken

Based on this thread (which you are a part of :-)... as it's all i've heard about the case.

[Roo]

If we don't care about the senseless death of a young child, then why should we care about a million? I might have taken your approach many years ago, but this case touched me and millions of other people, and I don't se that as a bad thing. If it gets people to be more aware and caring of the most vulnerable in our society, then I see nothing wrong with that.

You're shitting me. If you drop 1 penny and don't bother picking it up, would you do the same with a thousand dollars? That is not quite the analogy I was striving for there, but your knee-jerk statement I bolded above is wildly absurd at best, and with all due respect, devoid of any thoughtful consideration at all. Is the difference between a murder and a massacre lost on you? A single case vs. an epidemic? Sure I care about the senseless death of a child, but I care far less about the senseless death of ONE American child, brought to our attention by an orgiastic media frenzy, than I care about a million children and their mothers who are raped and beaten to death every year in the D.R. Congo, as one example. All of the time and energy people spent following these court proceedings live on TV and watching the Nancy Grace specials and reading the tabloids would have been far better spent educating themselves on the myriad conflicts and abominations affecting entire countries. Every day sees the senseless death of countless men, women, and children. Whole regions are in violent turmoil and governments are engaged in the torture and massacre of their own citizens; ethnic cleansing is alive and well; children are kidnapped in Africa and converted to glue-huffing, Kalishnikov-wielding murderous thugs, political dissidents are locked away for a life of torture for demanding basic human rights...

Please don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you don't care about these things, but my point is that while these horrors carry on unceasingly and on such massive scale, America is content to ignore the world and invest grossly disproportionate emotion and outrage while their little dead-child-bad-mom soap opera unfolds -- a tale that can be told in any country at any time. But here we are in our little corner of the world with our media blinders strapped firmly around our thick heads while things of actual importance and truly worthy of public outcry carry on in all those unseen and seemingly insignificant lands. Just my opinion.

[RobsanX]

People's attention to this case has nothing to do with being "more aware and caring". It is blood lust and feeding frenzy, nothing else.

Ken

Do you really think that people want her dead just because she appeared in a court room without giving any thought to her victim? That's a pretty warped view.

[RobsanX]

a tale that can be told in any country at any time.

True, but domestic violence, and violence in general is still a big problem in the U.S. too. My point is that sometimes you need a "poster child" to show the horrific violence that still happens here. Caylee Anthony is playing that role from the grave, and I don't have a problem with that.

[devilock76]

Based on this thread (which you are a part of :-)... as it's all i've heard about the case.

So an even more limited filter than the mass media mayhem. I would critique that but based on this overall thread you are probably getting a more level headed view of it then you would if you turned on the brain dump box (aka TV).

Ken

[devilock76]

Do you really think that people want her dead just because she appeared in a court room without giving any thought to her victim? That's a pretty warped view.

No, because it is our nature and we showed it following this. It is the same mentality that causes rubber necking at a bad accident. We want to see the horror show, no matter how much we feign disgust at it.

Ken

[devilock76]

True, but domestic violence, and violence in general is still a big problem in the U.S. too. My point is that sometimes you need a "poster child" to show the horrific violence that still happens here. Caylee Anthony is playing that role from the grave, and I don't have a problem with that.

You damn well know that people aren't using it for that. The people raging about this are raging at the justice system, not the atrocities of the world. ROO is SPOT FREAKING ON in his assessment of this.

Ken

[RobsanX]

The people raging about this are raging at the justice system,

Ken

I agree with that, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being mad about injustice of any kind. A minute ago you said it is blood lust, and I disagree with that.

Maybe I'm not making myself clear. Remember that this ordeal has been going on for three years. The anger before the verdict was mainly because a little girl died needlessly. The anger now, is at the perceived injustice of the jury verdict.

[devilock76]

I agree with that, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with being mad about injustice of any kind. A minute ago you said it is blood lust, and I disagree with that.

Maybe I'm not making myself clear. Remember that this ordeal has been going on for three years. The anger before the verdict was mainly because a little girl died needlessly. The anger now, is at the perceived injustice of the jury verdict.

You sure love to quote out of context when you reply. HEHEHEHE. No I am saying what people are raging at, about, the concrete target they are creating, their motives however are vindictive, that is it. The child has been dead for three years, the time to be angry about that was then. People are angry that an eye for an eye didn't happen. They want the public slaughter. No one will say that. Their societal super ego prevents it, but it still remains what it is.

Ken

[Premium Parrots]

Roo did say it pretty well.

Ok, this also appears to be the problem. The judge gave clear jury instructions but the jury didn't understand them. The jury mistook "beyond a reasonable doubt" as meaning there needs to be fingerprint, DNA, video or some other "beyond a reasonable doubt" proof of evidence. There simply wasn't any. I believe the problem most people have with the verdict is because of this. The judge was pretty dam clear when he instructed the jury. He just didn't say that there does not have to have any of the normal "evidence" we are accustomed to these days. There just can't be any reasonable doubt to find someone guilty. And, in this case.....there wasn't any reasonable doubt. They all knew she was guilty but there was none of the evidence that we are used to having nowadays. Thats why so many people are pissed. Before there was fingerprints, DNA and video there were plenty of people properly found guilty of their crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. What I'm trying to say isn't that easy for me to verbalize....I just hope you understand what I am getting at. Also the jury wasn't the brightest people in that courthouse that day.

Thats why all the law professionals were so pissed as well. No one could believe the verdict. The verdict was wrong because the jury for one, didn't care about the out come, they wanted to go home. Two, they were anxious to cash in asap. Three, they couldn't comprehend what the judge instructed.

So.....now that Casey is pronounced innocent I wonder if the police are looking for the murderer. Of course they aren't, everybody knows Casey is guilty, even the freakin jury. But they didn't have brains enough to get it right.

I sure hope they nail her in the civil trials that are sure to come.

end of rant.

[Bigblue1]

Roo did say it pretty well.

Ok, this also appears to be the problem. The judge gave clear jury instructions but the jury didn't understand them. The jury mistook "beyond a reasonable doubt" as meaning there needs to be fingerprint, DNA, video or some other "beyond a reasonable doubt" proof of evidence. There simply wasn't any. I believe the problem most people have with the verdict is because of this. The judge was pretty dam clear when he instructed the jury. He just didn't say that there does not have to have any of the normal "evidence" we are accustomed to these days. There just can't be any reasonable doubt to find someone guilty. And, in this case.....there wasn't any reasonable doubt. They all knew she was guilty but there was none of the evidence that we are used to having nowadays. Thats why so many people are pissed. Before there was fingerprints, DNA and video there were plenty of people properly found guilty of their crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. What I'm trying to say isn't that easy for me to verbalize....I just hope you understand what I am getting at. Also the jury wasn't the brightest people in that courthouse that day.

Thats why all the law professionals were so pissed as well. No one could believe the verdict. The verdict was wrong because the jury for one, didn't care about the out come, they wanted to go home. Two, they were anxious to cash in asap. Three, they couldn't comprehend what the judge instructed.

So.....now that Casey is pronounced innocent I wonder if the police are looking for the murderer. Of course they aren't, everybody knows Casey is guilty, even the freakin jury. But they didn't have brains enough to get it right.

I sure hope they nail her in the civil trials that are sure to come.

end of rant.

Really??? The judge gave the same instruction any judge should give. This CSI effect bullshit is just trying to set a precedence against jury trials and the constitution. This whole thing is shit. I am sorry not wanting to take care of a baby and be a party girl is no motive, Especially since there were more than willing Grand parents to take care of the baby. As has been said in this thread if they would have not over reached and looked for the DeathPenalty and charged her with a multitude of lesser charges that would have garnered a lot of jail time the verdict most likely would have been Guilty. So don't blame the jury, they did their job. Blame the overzealous prosecution and the mob media..........

[Premium Parrots]

Really??? The judge gave the same instruction any judge should give. This CSI effect bullshit is just trying to set a precedence against jury trials and the constitution. This whole thing is shit. I am sorry not wanting to take care of a baby and be a party girl is no motive, Especially since there were more than willing Grand parents to take care of the baby. As has been said in this thread if they would have not over reached and looked for the DeathPenalty and charged her with a multitude of lesser charges that would have garnered a lot of jail time the verdict most likely would have been Guilty. So don't blame the jury, they did their job. Blame the overzealous prosecution and the mob media..........

I agree with that also. The jury could of at least went with a lesser charge. There were ****-ups made by everyone involved and amazingly all benefited Casey. Hence, the results.

I've been watching all this casey crap for the past 3 years. My wife has to watch that stuff every night. When she falls a sleep then I can watch what I want.



BB.....I fully expected your comment a lot sooner than when you posted it. I knew someone would have something to say. There were so many things wrong its hard to post them all. BTW, I don't believe that its right to take anyones life. Even if proven guilty. sad story all the way around.