Weiner is coming clean

[BadAxe]

I kind of laugh when men ask, "How could he do that?" Because he's a MAN.

Doesn't make it right, morally or otherwise. But human beings were not made to be monogomous. Its something us humans invented, and said "God wants it that way". But thats besides the point. Whether we are loyal to our partners or not, I don't think there is a man that makes it through life without the temptation to cheat, the temptation to just have sex with someone else. Its just that some men are stronger then others, and can remain loyal, while others can not, or choose not to. But for a man to expresss shock and outrage at another man for having sex with other women, well, thats just kinda laughable, whether it comes from a loyal man, or a cheating man. Look at history, look at man and sex. There should never be any surprise to find out a man (or a woman for that matter) cheated.

[RobsanX]

But human beings were not made to be monogomous. Its something us humans invented, and said "God wants it that way".

I have a theory that monogamous marriage was invented as a way to curb STD's. That scourge from God...

[BadAxe]

I have a theory that monogamous marriage was invented as a way to curb STD's. That scourge from God...

While I am loyal to my wife, I just feel that if we were meant to be monogamous, the temptation and attraction to other people would not be as strong as it sometimes can be. I definitely feel its a "human invented" condition that is not natural. Definitely not the way humans are programmed.

[Premium Parrots]

insert witty comment here

[sgreger1]

Such justified moral outrage and it's true, lying is indefensible. Of course it is always amusing to me to see the shock when a politician is caught lying. A politician loose with the truth, well, who woulda thunk?

Americans sure get weird(er) when it comes to most anything regarding sex and their politicians. Perhaps that has always been so but I'm not sure. I do wish I could live to see the day when such moral outrage also gets directed towards those politicians that lie causing thousands upon thousands to have their lives ended violently. Maybe some of that outrage could also be directed towards those that make a living selling killing, too. Perhaps some for those that think there is so much money in "defense" that they can greedily help themselves as a small percentage wouldn't even be missed. Lastly, maybe some of that moral outrage should be headed in my direction as I could not do enough to try and stop it. But in the meantime, let's entertain ourselves with some sex follies.

No one cares about sex follies. It's the fact that he is a perpetual liar and has no problem lying directly to his constituents. The fact that politicians lie often should not mean that we should no longer worry about lying. All of these ****s lie and we know it, no one is "Shocked", but when they get caught it is just extra sweet, even on minor stuff.

He is also a warmongerer and voted for the patriot act + extensions.
The Patriot act suspends the Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth amendments under certain circumstances. Stop acting like we're all just freaking out over nothing. It's a big ****ing deal.



On an unrelated note, we are now at 62 trillion in debt/unfunded liabilities. 5 trillion added just this last year. No plan to get us out of it. One side only wants to cut, the other side only wants to raise taxes. The side that wants to cut wants to cut almost nothing relevant from the budget (as in, they don't want to cut defense), and the side that wants to raise taxes fails to realize that if we raise taxes they will just take that as a mandate to spend more. They are 62 trillion over the budget, what makes anyone here think that raising taxes alone is going to make thems uddenly start spending our money better?

Neither of the two parties has a plan, and they are both sending us in the same general direction whic is towards more war and more debt.




VOTING RECORD:

Anthony Weiner missed 5% of his votes, as in he decided to just not vote on those issues. (Not uncommon, but I still can't believe we allow our reps to just not vote on things they don't feel like voting on, a common occurance in congress)

He voted to extend th patriot act and is voting pro-ground war in Libya:

Jun 3, 2011 1:47 PM
Nay
On Passage - H.Con.Res. 51 Directing the President, pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution, to remove the United States Armed Froces from Libya
Failed 148-265, 19 not voting

Jun 3, 2011 1:40 PM
Nay
On Passage - H.Res. 292 Declaring that the President shall not deploy, establish, or maintain the presence of units and members of the United States Armed Forces on the ground in Libya, and for other purposes
Passed 268-145, 19 not voting

Jun 3, 2011 10:43 AM
Nay
On Passage - H.Res. 294 Providing for consideration of H.Res. 292 declaring that the President shall not deploy, establish, or maintain the presence of U.S. Armed Forces in Libya, and for consideration of H.Con.Res. 51 directing the President, pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution, to remove the U.S. Armed Forces from Libya
Passed 257-156, 19 not voting




Pelosi has called for an ethics investigation, so we'll see what comes of it. I don't know that he should resign, but I would lvoe to see anyone who voted for the patriot act removed from office.

[LincolnSnuff]

[dpete]

Stop acting like we're all just freaking out over nothing. It's a big ****ing deal.

I really think that if there wasn't a junk image this story would have gotten little to no traction and he wouldn't have felt a need to lie about the situation. You have to admit, sex sells to the Puritans. But you missed my main point. I hoped to see the day when those whose blatant dishonesty has caused/is causing the deaths of thousands of innocent people are held to the same public outrage and disdain that a dick lying about a picture of his dick is held to. Am under no illusions, don't expect to see it. Sgreger1, we are really not that far apart issue-wise there only seems to me to be a priority difference.

[desirexe]

While I am loyal to my wife, I just feel that if we were meant to be monogamous, the temptation and attraction to other people would not be as strong as it sometimes can be. I definitely feel its a "human invented" condition that is not natural. Definitely not the way humans are programmed.

Why does Snuson not have a "like" button???

[Bigblue1]

I really think that if there wasn't a junk image this story would have gotten little to no traction and he wouldn't have felt a need to lie about the situation. You have to admit, sex sells to the Puritans. But you missed my main point. I hoped to see the day when those whose blatant dishonesty has caused/is causing the deaths of thousands of innocent people are held to the same public outrage and disdain that a dick lying about a picture of his dick is held to. Am under no illusions, don't expect to see it. Sgreger1, we are really not that far apart issue-wise there only seems to me to be a priority difference.

You see tho, sgreger is right if we can get this warmongering hawk democrat to resign over a personal issue, then I am all for it. I have no party allegiance, it is well documented here That I hate both sides. I wouldn't even let the unions/democrats mis-lead me if I were you. The Democrats are not organized labors friend. Clinton= Nafta which did more harm for the labor in this country than anything else has ever done........ I love you Dpete!

[tom502]

His wife is really hot, but she's Hilldog's carpet licker.

[Monkey]

Coming much cleaner since I took out the prince albert...

And really, did they need to show the wang picture on television? WTF.

I saw it in the gym during some show. I dont have cable or a digital converter at home...

Wang pictures is what the internet is for.....

[dpete]

You see tho, sgreger is right if we can get this warmongering hawk democrat to resign over a personal issue, then I am all for it. I have no party allegiance, it is well documented here That I hate both sides. I wouldn't even let the unions/democrats mis-lead me if I were you. The Democrats are not organized labors friend. Clinton= Nafta which did more harm for the labor in this country than anything else has ever done........ I love you Dpete!

Love back at you brother Blue. However, jettisoning a single solitary hawk for a completely unrelated reason seems to me to be a miniscule advance at best. Another hawk is probably waiting in the wings. If this be the case, what good has this done? Again, I'm under no illusions. I'm only pointing out the discrepancy in the outcry between this lie and lies that have caused/are causing far more harm. That, to me, is where the problem needs to be addressed to begin with.

[Bigblue1]

Love back at you brother Blue. However, jettisoning a single solitary hawk for a completely unrelated reason seems to me to be a miniscule advance at best. Another hawk is probably waiting in the wings. If this be the case, what good has this done? Again, I'm under no illusions. I'm only pointing out the discrepancy in the outcry between this lie and lies that have caused/are causing far more harm. That, to me, is where the problem needs to be addressed to begin with.

Understand completely, but every journey starts with 1 step. I hate politics so much at this point I don't even want to argue about it. The 1 thing I can truly be hopeful for is that these shit bags do this shit enough so the general populace who only sees things that seem like reality tv to them will finally realize they are a den of vipers and not looking out for any of our interests.

I got.........

I know.......

[RobsanX]

It's getting to the point that we don't want anyone in office that would actually run for the position. Too many people doing it for the wrong reasons.

[Joe234]

While Demanding Weiner’s Resignation, RNC Chairman Refuses To Discuss Vitter Prostitution Scandal

By Alex Seitz-Wald on Jun 8, 2011 at 12:40 pm






National Democrats have been quick to distance themselves from disgraced Rep. Anthony Wiener (D-NY) in the wake of his Twitter sex scandal, with the party’s top leaders in both chambers publicly chastising him. House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and DCCC Chairman Steve Israel (D-NY) called for an ethics investigation, former Democratic National Committee Chairman Tim Kaine called on Weiner to resign, while Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) coldly said he would urge Weiner to “call somebody else” if the Congressman asked for advice. Other Democrats have returned campaign contributions from Weiner.



Meanwhile, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus has vocally called for Weiner’s resignation. But this has led many to questions if Priebus is exploiting the scandal for political gain by holding Weiner to a standard the GOP didn’t apply to their own members embroiled in scandal, especially Sen. David Vitter (R-LA) who admitted in 2007 to patronizing a prostitution ring. Vitter remains in the Senate to this day and easily won reelection in 2010. Fox News host Greta Van Susteren asked Priebus about this double standard last night, but Priebus refused to address it and Van Susteren, not surprisingly, allowed him to evade the question:

VAN SUSTEREN: Is there a difference with Senator David Vitter, I mean, with the whole — with his whole little prostitution — he’s on a prostitution client list. Is that different?
PRIEBUS: Well, I don’t know if it’s different.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, nobody called –
PRIEBUS: Frankly, I’m not relitigating the David Vitter situation.

But even Priebus’s predecessor, former RNC Chairman Michael Steele, sees some “inconsistency” in Priebus’ acrimony, as he told MSNBC’s Rachael Maddow last night:

STEELE: It doesn’t matter if your name is Vitter or Weiner…[t]he consequences of breaking that trust should be equally applied. I heard what the chairman said today and thought it was a little bit not right. You can’t look at one case and say that this behavior warrants dismissal or you should quit, or look at another one that may be a degree or two more egregious and not see that same that requirement of removing yourself from office.

Watch a compilation of Priebus and Steele:

Priebus has explicitly insisted that DNC Chairwoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) should call on Weiner to resign. But how did Priebus’s predecessors handle the Vitter scandal? Neither Duncan Hunter nor former Sen. Mel Martinez — who co-headed the RNC in 2007 — called on Vitter to resign. In fact, according to a Nexis search, it appears neither even addressed the scandal publicly.

Unlike Pelosi, Senate Minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) did not call for a ethics investigation into Vitter, and remained largely silent on the scandal.


Vitter did, however, receive public support from fellow Louisiana Republicans. Realizing that the state’s Democratic governor would likely appoint a Democrat if Vitter resigned, the state GOP launched “a concerted push…to offer some support” for the embattled senator, the The New Oreleans Times Picyune reported at the time. Then-Rep. Bobby Jindal (R-LA), who was in the midst of a successful bid for governor, issued a statement saying, “While we are disappointed by Senator Vitter’s actions…[t]his is a matter for the Senator to address, and it is our hope that this is not used by others for their own political gain.” Louisiana GOP Reps. Richard Baker and Charles Boustany issued their own “supportive statements,” with Baker saying Vitter’s illegal use of prostitution “does not define the whole of the man and it is not irredeemable.” He even urged to the news media to exercise “some restraint” when writing about the scandal.



Priebus is right to call for a high ethical standard for political leaders, but his indignation would ring less hollow if he applied the same standard to those in his own party as well.