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  • sgreger1
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 9451

    #16
    Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus View Post
    Well I guess you just need the "If asian = yes, flashy-ninja-shit = true" script


    Wow, this helps a lot. With this code i've already managed to complete 80% of the site.I'm not quite getting the desired results though, it seems to have populated my domain with only a single page, and all it displays is this graphic?









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    • sgreger1
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      #17
      Originally posted by dreed2 View Post
      You can do wonders with JavaScript, which will bypass the whole Flash thing. Until Flash works on iPhone and iPads (which it will soon, by the way), I wouldn't recommend designing an entire website in Flash since so many people use iPhones, etc. Not to mention that updating a Flash website is a freakin' nightmare. Go with basic HTML and a little JavaScript for interest. Keep it as simple as possible. It will save you many headaches in the future.
      What do you mean when you say iphone/ipad will be able to run flash soon? I thought they had no plans of supporting flash because it was too processor intensive for mobile devices, which is why android phones are infamous for being slow and crashing?

      If they supported flash it would be AWESOME! I doubt it though


      I don't know enough javascript to do wonders with unfortunately, and I don't plan to learn just for this weekend project. I really wish I had kept up with all the tech stuff, I was really into it when I was like 16, but programming languages keep changing and I can't keep up.

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      • dreed2
        Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 256

        #18
        http://money.cnn.com/2010/11/02/tech...fire/index.htm HTML5 to the rescue?

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        • texastorm
          Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 386

          #19
          Agreeing with everyone else... dont bother with a flash website. It is however cool to integrate some flash features in as long as they arent primary site functions. Javascipt can be a easy substitute in most cases though.

          On the indexing issue, sure most people find her through Yelp, however if she also had a text rich html website she would end up getting found on some interesting searches that dont bring up yelp, and maybe get a few extra butts in chairs.

          This is how I started. I made a website for a family member.... now I have developed over 200. But I still don't consider myself a designer. I am more of a domain developer. I stay with the tried and true and stay away from the cutting edge. Less errors on a page that way. More hair on my head...metaphorically speaking since I shave it all off.

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #20
            Okay, I know no one here wants me to use flash. I am trying it out.

            But, I cannot find anything that can edit flash .fla or .swf files on a mac. Apparently Adobe creative suite flash is the only program that can do this on a mac.


            Does anyone here know of any program that can edit flash files on a mac? Even something with a trial demo. My mac won't download the trial version of adobe flash so it is making this difficult.

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            • lxskllr
              Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 13435

              #21
              Maybe there's something useful for Linux. Check out this wiki...

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_for_Linux

              If you see something promising, you could setup a dual boot on your Apple.

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              • devilock76
                Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 1737

                #22
                Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                I completely agree RE: Flash. I think it is gimmicky, takes too long to load, and it is no longer viable as companies like apple have decided to ditch it. I planned to get around it by having an automatic redirect to an HTML page for those without flash (a mobile friendly version of the site).



                The site is going to be simple, it just needs to show pictures of the food, the menu, and maybe an "order" section that essentially just send an email to a dedicated inbox for taking orders.

                All very simple stuff, but she saw a competitors site do all the cool flash animation stuff and she was like "WANT". (THIS is the site she saw)


                I am going to try to do it with flash, but I don't have the program(s) necessary to pull that off.



                If I were to do it in just HTML, my HTML/javascript etc skills is rusty and outdated, so I would need a program that can allow me to do the least amount of actual coding. Something like dreamweaver or equivalent would be great.


                What is bluefish? I don't need anything to be particularly interactive, but I would like it to be animated in a style similar to that of a flash website. But I don't even have photoshop, and I am on a mac so most pirated stuff is only available for windows.





                EDIT: HTML 5 is supposedly going to replace flash, but how does it work? Can HTML5 create a flash "looking" webpage?
                HTML5, and many people don't realize how much is possible in HTML without flash. Then again some of that gets blocked by users security setup.

                Maybe you should consider downloading a flash template. There are many out there, free and commercial and all they take is usually knowing some basic HTML to edit.

                Just a thought.

                I really do avoid flash like the plague. A big part of that is there is not a flash editor that I know of to use on Linux.

                Ken

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                • devilock76
                  Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 1737

                  #23
                  I am going to state this for the record right now.

                  The most important things for your site are:

                  SEO
                  Easy Navigation
                  Clear easy to read text

                  That is just a fact, yes the bling is nice but what the typical user cares about is does it annoy them to try to read the page or not.

                  That being said everyone of those things I mentioned are not "helped" by using flash, and in fact several are hindered. The only purpose for using flash is advanced media, and if your business is not advanced media...

                  I still recommend a good CMS. Something light, maybe a no DB design.

                  Ken

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                  • lxskllr
                    Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 13435

                    #24
                    Maybe you can get some ideas from these guys :^D

                    http://superior-web-solutions.com/


                    Edit:

                    This website is pretty "flashy" without using Flash...

                    http://yvettesbridalformal.com/

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                    • sgreger1
                      Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 9451

                      #25
                      Originally posted by devilock76 View Post
                      HTML5, and many people don't realize how much is possible in HTML without flash. Then again some of that gets blocked by users security setup.

                      Maybe you should consider downloading a flash template. There are many out there, free and commercial and all they take is usually knowing some basic HTML to edit.

                      Just a thought.

                      I really do avoid flash like the plague. A big part of that is there is not a flash editor that I know of to use on Linux.

                      Ken

                      That's what i'm doing, just starting with a template and then editing the .fla file to change the text and pictures. I can't find any software that can edit the .fla though, and that is my problem. The only one that works for mac apparently is Adobe Flash studio but i can't get the trial to ru on my computer for some reason, it just keeps giving me an error.

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                      • sgreger1
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        #26
                        Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                        Edit:

                        This website is pretty "flashy" without using Flash...

                        http://yvettesbridalformal.com/


                        Good god, that website reminds me of a late 90's geocities page! God, that is atrocious. I will begin copying it's source code at once, my mother in law simply must have this website!

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                        • lxskllr
                          Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 13435

                          #27
                          :^D

                          That would be an amusing joke. For the grand unveiling, use your clone of that site, and see what mom thinks. After she's recovered from the trauma, you can show her the real site.

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                          • sgreger1
                            Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 9451

                            #28
                            Originally posted by danielan View Post
                            LOL, the best thing about that page is the large number of unattractive brides...

                            I'm never going to Panama City FL.



                            I miss the flash and marquee tags...

                            And "Under Construction" gifs.

                            And dancing squirrels. LOLOLOOLOL


                            Man, the itnernet used to be so cool. I remember in the late 90' when it first started kicking off, and businesses started getting websites and stuff. Man, those were the days. No regulation of any kind, endless possibilities. I knew the gov would find a way to shut it down someday, or at least heavily censor it to the point where it looks like a North korea "show" city, where you only see what the government wants you to see.

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by lxskllr View Post
                              :^D

                              That would be an amusing joke. For the grand unveiling, use your clone of that site, and see what mom thinks. After she's recovered from the trauma, you can show her the real site.


                              LOLOLLOLOLOL. I was thinking of unveiling lemonparty.com to her, and then asking her how she likes the new site. Tell her years of market research went into this project, and that the final decision was that we need to attract the 65 year old gay orgy demographic to our philipino restaurant. LOLOLOOl.

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                              • devilock76
                                Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 1737

                                #30
                                Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                                That's what i'm doing, just starting with a template and then editing the .fla file to change the text and pictures. I can't find any software that can edit the .fla though, and that is my problem. The only one that works for mac apparently is Adobe Flash studio but i can't get the trial to ru on my computer for some reason, it just keeps giving me an error.
                                There are many flash templates out there you can edit without a flash editor. All the important stuff you would need to change is in settings files and template .html files. That is why I was saying basic html knowledge is all you would need to use those.

                                Ken

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