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  • GoVegan
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 5603

    #16
    Originally posted by RobsanX View Post
    I still haven't heard what the Republicans want to do for the country. My biggest issue is middle class jobs, and I just don't think that the GOP gives a shit about the middle class. There have been several bills offering incentives for US businesses to hire US workers, and the Republicans have filibustered every one of them.
    This is so true! It seems like the Republicans are primarily worried about fat cats and people with high incomes. The Democrats are primarily worried about you if your flat broke. There is nobody out there for the middle class. Both parties pretend to help the middle class but will easily sacrifice their needs if it will help the filthy rich or dirt poor.

    This is very evident when you see crap like people fighting over how the tax breaks for the rich should be extended or when they try to extend unemployment insurance benefits.

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    • sgreger1
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 9451

      #17
      Originally posted by GoVegan View Post
      This is so true! It seems like the Republicans are primarily worried about fat cats and people with high incomes. The Democrats are primarily worried about you if your flat broke. There is nobody out there for the middle class. Both parties pretend to help the middle class but will easily sacrifice their needs if it will help the filthy rich or dirt poor.

      This is very evident when you see crap like people fighting over how the tax breaks for the rich should be extended or when they try to extend unemployment insurance benefits.



      I'm telling you, they are either working together or maybe it's just a side effect but it seems like their aim is to increase wage disparity, which is why it gets worse every year. In a nation where one party help the rich and one helps the poor, how can a mide class exis in the long run?


      The reason I tend to side with republican ideals is that at least helping productive people who want to create wealth will have a somewhat positive outcome. Just giving free money to the poor doesn't actually help the poor at all, nor does it help the country become rich and productive (ie. A nice place to live)

      I never plan on being poor because I refuse to let it happen, at least there is a chance I could be successful, which is why republicans normally get my vote, even though I know that they don't care about the middle class.

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      • Curtisp
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 189

        #18
        Originally posted by RobsanX View Post
        I still haven't heard what the Republicans want to do for the country. My biggest issue is middle class jobs, and I just don't think that the GOP gives a shit about the middle class. There have been several bills offering incentives for US businesses to hire US workers, and the Republicans have filibustered every one of them.
        The GOP does not want a middle class. They virtually eliminated it last time in office. This time around, they will finish the job.

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        • pipes
          Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 72

          #19
          Its a personal thing but I much prefer the Rep point of view ! To each his own I knew as soon as the damn Demoncrats got in office thou I was outa business as a pipe tobacco dealer / blender being a mom and pop shop ! Read the whole bill there packed so full a pork no decent Rep could get reelected and support the damn things .....

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          • sgreger1
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 9451

            #20
            Originally posted by Curtisp View Post
            The GOP does not want a middle class. They virtually eliminated it last time in office. This time around, they will finish the job.
            Can you name what the dems have done for the middle class? They give out as much if not more corporate welfare than the republicans. You would have to be blind to think the deems care about the middle class

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            • GoVegan
              Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 5603

              #21
              Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
              Can you name what the dems have done for the middle class? They give out as much if not more corporate welfare than the republicans. You would have to be blind to think the deems care about the middle class
              I don't think that the Democrats really care that much about the middle class but they do seem to do less damage to it than the Republicans do.

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              • Roo
                Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 3446

                #22
                "Middle Class Task Force". They may not be doing shit, but at least they are talking about it opening a dialog for questions like: "so what have you done about it?"

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                • lxskllr
                  Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 13435

                  #23
                  What pisses me off about the Republicrats is they talk a good libertarian game, but they only want liberty for people that believe exactly what they do. Want to smoke weed? We're not THAT kind of libertarian. I'll see you in jail. Want to build on your property? We're not THAT kind of libertarian either. You're free to build, but make sure you pay your bribe...er... permits first. Suck it up, and **** yourself if you're just a regular guy, but they'll help their buddies with the dollars liberate jobs out of the country, and money to bottom of their pockets.

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                  • sgreger1
                    Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 9451

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Roo View Post
                    "Middle Class Task Force". They may not be doing shit, but at least they are talking about it opening a dialog for questions like: "so what have you done about it?"

                    Lol, you mean the middle class task force that is comprised entirely of people in the top 5% income bracket?

                    Cummon, why are we fooled by things like this still. The middle class task force is about as likely to help the middle class as the patriot act is to increase individual liberty.

                    Time Magazine: Obama's middle class task force-has no middle class
                    http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...882913,00.html


                    Bottom line, the republicans are there to help people that want to make money, democrats want to give money to those who do not know how to make it. As I am of the "Teach a man to fish" ideology, this makes me lean to the right. Historically, getting educated, working hard, learning to play the system and diversifying yourself by doing things over and above just being an employee somewhere (like investing, owning a business etc) is what makes people successfull, this is who the republicans cater to. There are some who want to work at walmart and somehow enjoy the same lifestyle as a fortune 500 CEO, but as we all know, that is never going to happen no matter who you vote for. I'm just more on the side of keeping it real.

                    Learn to fish and you won't have to beg someone else to give you part of theirs. This is America people, there are lots of communist and socialist countries, but now and in the past they have done very little to help the middle class. Ask middle class communist china how they're doing. Or perhaps it does work some places, look at sweden or switzerland. But in a country this large, it doesn't seem to work too well.

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                    • Jwalker
                      Member
                      • May 2010
                      • 1067

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Roo View Post
                      Sgreger's so happy he could suck some dick lol. **** the GOP and **** the Dems. Obama made another visit to Seattle today. In August he came to the block I work on. Today he visited my Mom's block and she couldn't leave her house for a few hours. And they stick us for a $150,000 security bill for his trouble. Thanks, we're already cutting a ton of public services to stay afloat, we really needed another Patty Murray rally. On second thought, that GOP bastard Dino Rossi needs all the negative attention he can get. He's a real asshole., and he just can't win, thank god. CoderGuy, vote Murray would ya?
                      I honestly would vote for almost anyone rather than patty murray. What do you have against Rossi?

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                      • Roo
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3446

                        #26
                        I'm not being fooled by anything Mr. Griggity. It's a matter of faking a solution vs. blatantly ignoring a problem. That's pretty much US politics for you right there.

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                        • pipes
                          Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 72

                          #27
                          Thats so true IF the damn congress wasn't over run by 1 party right now NONE of this BS PACT and what have you would NOT a went anyplace IMHO anyway ! Having been a business person for my whole adult life 40+ yrs Rep have always been the best for business like it or not its a fact !Tax and spend handout Demoncrats are killing us ! YMMV of course .

                          The damn Demoncrats have both houses and the president and can't do nothing but hand out money and blame George Bush for everything ! When you have the kind of control they have right now and you can't fix nuten its YOUR FAULT PERIOD.. But all these folks wanted an OBAMA to save them from themself and they got him and there stuck with this idiot 2 more yrs .......

                          If were lucky this midterm election a atleast STOP OBAMA CARE and the rest of his commie agenda... maybe stop some a this damn money printing mess 13.5 TRILLION folks were in debt and going UP everyday MY GREAT GRAN kids a be paying for this idiots mess..... again thou YMMV specialy if your one a the few getting a ck from them or some other freebie goverment handout !

                          The poor folks on Social Security are getting NO RAISE again because Bill Clinton CHANGED the way INFLATION is figured and pulled grocerys and fuel /OIL from the formula ! Obama COULD reverse this for the retired folks but he won't And we all know gas and food never goes up thanks DEMONCRATS . But just keep on voting for them there doing a GREAT job weren't you just so proud to be American when Carter made us look like idiots to the world another DEMONCRAT . I gotta shut up I could type for a week onj this .

                          And pay no attention to these other countries they ALWAYS hate us UNTIL they need us to pull there ass outa the fire .

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                          • lxskllr
                            Member
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 13435

                            #28
                            It's hard to blame Obama for the mess we're in now. He inherited a shit sandwich, and had to find the best way to eat it. This has been the worst depression since the Great Depression, and make no mistake, despite all the sugar coating that politicians have tried to put on it, it is a depression. Generations have gone by without the knowledge of what it takes to fix a depression. We lucked out and got a world war the first time to pull us out. Now it takes something a little more subtle, and nobody really knows what to do. It's easy to blame Obama for trying to buy his way out of the depression(that Republicrats caused), but history may prove him right; or not. The truth is no one knows how to handle things at this point, and any guess is as good as another.

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                            • sgreger1
                              Member
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 9451

                              #29
                              Originally posted by pipes
                              Thats so true IF the damn congress wasn't over run by 1 party right now NONE of this BS PACT and what have you would NOT a went anyplace IMHO anyway ! Having been a business person for my whole adult life 40+ yrs Rep have always been the best for business like it or not its a fact !Tax and spend handout Demoncrats are killing us ! YMMV of course .

                              The damn Demoncrats have both houses and the president and can't do nothing but hand out money and blame George Bush for everything ! When you have the kind of control they have right now and you can't fix nuten its YOUR FAULT PERIOD.. But all these folks wanted an OBAMA to save them from themself and they got him and there stuck with this idiot 2 more yrs .......

                              If were lucky this midterm election a atleast STOP OBAMA CARE and the rest of his commie agenda... maybe stop some a this damn money printing mess 13.5 TRILLION folks were in debt and going UP everyday MY GREAT GRAN kids a be paying for this idiots mess..... again thou YMMV specialy if your one a the few getting a ck from them or some other freebie goverment handout !

                              The poor folks on Social Security are getting NO RAISE again because Bill Clinton CHANGED the way INFLATION is figured and pulled grocerys and fuel /OIL from the formula ! And we all know gas and food never goes up thanks DEMONCRATS . But just keep on voting for them there doing a GREAT job weren't you just so proud to be American when Carter made us look like idiots to the world another DEMONCRAT . I gotta shut up I could type for a week onj this .



                              Oh my God Roo, where you at man, where is the grammar nazi when you need him!

                              Oh, btw, for identification purposes, I move to vote that Roo replace his avatar with this official grammar nazi flag






                              And for absolutely no reason, here is the best fortune cookie you will get see all day:

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                              • pipes
                                Member
                                • Oct 2010
                                • 72

                                #30
                                The 4 TRILLION he OBAMA has added to the debt is NOT from George Bush ya it was bad when he got it and all he has done is throw $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ at it and that is NOT gona work now fannie and fredie need a few trillion to stay afloat so he will just print it up and barrow it from China . And Bush had to finance a war by the way that at the time 67% a the country agreed with . Anyone voting against that money would a been tarred and fethered . Me personaly I would vote to pay a tax to pay for the war and keep the troops outfittied right but thats me Iam so consevative I starch my underwear.....

                                And for god sakes give the poor bastids on SS a decent raise like they got every yr under Reagan !!!!

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