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Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
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Originally posted by Roo View PostRick is a mod? I had no idea. You know what I was thinking? We tout ourselves as a mellow bunch of people, and the truth is that we are, but we also know how to act like some whiny little bitches. Ice hooks us up with this place, we should be more than happy to continue enjoying each other' company here on this site and really quit worrying about the gd points and let the man treat us right. I mean, do you really have suggestions for the guy who makes this all possible as to what he should do with a point system that already has a system in place? Christ. Remember what bitches we were when the VIP was announced? Don't do it again! Just chill out and be glad you're here and thankfull to our man Aki and... and I bid you all a good snus and to all, snuson.
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Maybe we'll get points for each spammer we ban too (j/k)With recent events I think that would make us quite point-wealthy
Originally posted by lxskllr View PostThat would be sweet! You, me pris, Rick and Snusdog can split up the member list between us, and we'll have snus for life :^D
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Originally posted by AtreyuKun View PostHere's what I'd like to know, and I'm not bitching mind you just curious, but why do some people have more points than posts? How does that happen?Originally posted by Roo View PostI wonder that too, even though I don't care about the points. Look at sgreger1 vs. Vegan lol... Vegan got punked on the points.
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Originally posted by Mykislt View PostFirst off, let me clarify: no one (to my knowledge) wants the World section gone mmkay? Some, like me, think that the things posted there should not count towards a discount on snus, as they aren't related to or about snus.
Let me preface this by saying that I would not care even a tiny bit if the PATWAU section did not even issue you points. I can completely see that argument and you will not hear me complain if Ice decides to turn off points from the PATWAU section. A lot of those convos in the PATWAU section (and their associated points) are just me and Tom going back and forth so I understand if people don't want those points to be worth anything relative to others who post relevant shit that's actually about snus, and I think that is a completely valid argument so no protest from me there.
I like the feature, I love it, even though I won't be able to use it, but I just don't like the idea of people getting rewarded for straying off the course and going off topic.
And as far as contribution, i've been here for years, ive payed for the gold VIP, i've bought Ice's Icetool, i've bought his cool "ThinKing" wallet (which has replaced my regular wallet btw), i've contributed a little to the snus discussion part, but the vast majority of my posts are offtopic discussions in the PATWAU section, but I sure feel like I am a member of this community as much as anyone else, and if we are going to have a community shop that uses community points for currency/value, than I don't see how we can randomyl pick and choose whos points count more. I mean literally, I don't see how the logistics would work, how do we decide what posts are more valid than others? I again re-iterate that BS is posted in all sections of the forum, not just the PATWAU section.
Again, I don't care for these points and you guys can all split mine up when the store opens, but I maintain that everyone here contributes in one way or another to the snuson community and everyones posts should count if we are going to have a reward system. Really I think the points should be weighted differently, but that's just me, I think right now the point systems favors people who post walls of text like I do and I don't think that is fair.
It's very different, because if you write a review for a product, you write something relevant, and useful. If you would get rewarded for posting that same fleshlight joke on the northerner, that would be insane. Same with snuson, PATWAU is irrelevant, and serves no purpose within snus/tobacco discussion which is what this forum is about in its core.
Even if people were 'review whores' on the northerner, they would still contribute with appropriate material.
In actuality, the vast majority of traffic comes from unregistered lurkers, and they don't come here to read about fleshlights. Take a look at snuffhouse, (ballparking here) 95% of discussion is about tobacco, and the community isn't shattered. I don't want to shut that section down, I just feel that it isn't what this forum is for (it's for snus goddamit), and it should have a lower standing.
My point was that the people who take the time to make accounts usually end up finding their way to the PATWAU section, or sign up to join some heated debate happening there. It brings lurkers out of the dark. Lurkers will have no advantage either way since they get no points so why should they care anyways.
As far as snuffhouse being mianly about Tobacco, I think we can all agree that there is a reason why Snuson exists, and that is because it fills a void that places like snuffhouse do not fill. We have a special community here, and it's because we do things a little different.
But I agree, this is a Snus forum so the PATWAU should have a lower standing since it's not generally about snus.
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Originally posted by sgreger1 View PostLet me preface this by saying that I would not care even a tiny bit if the PATWAU section did not even issue you points. I can completely see that argument and you will not hear me complain if Ice decides to turn off points from the PATWAU section. A lot of those convos in the PATWAU section (and their associated points) are just me and Tom going back and forth so I understand if people don't want those points to be worth anything relative to others who post relevant shit that's actually about snus, and I think that is a completely valid argument so no protest from me there.
But just keep in mind that there is an argument for those points to be valid as well, namely that this is a Snuson store we are talking about, and the PATWAU section is a big part of Snuson. I mean we can't say "only on-topic snus comments should count for points" simply because there is no way logistically of accomplishing that. I don't see how someone posting BS in the snus&health section should count more than BS posted in the PATWAU section. BS is BS and there is no way to really filter that. And if you take away points from the PATWAU section, some people may or may not just start posting their BS into the regular snus sections to get points and that may taint the "snus" sections of our community. Right now the BS is pretty well contained to the PATWAU section for the most part and I think we take a risk by cutting off their points because the BS convos may spill into other sections just for the sake of points. It doesn't solve the postwhore problem and just incentivizes postwhores to do their whoring in the regular snus threads.
And as far as contribution, i've been here for years, ive payed for the gold VIP, i've bought Ice's Icetool, i've bought his cool "ThinKing" wallet (which has replaced my regular wallet btw), i've contributed a little to the snus discussion part, but the vast majority of my posts are offtopic discussions in the PATWAU section, but I sure feel like I am a member of this community as much as anyone else, and if we are going to have a community shop that uses community points for currency/value, than I don't see how we can randomyl pick and choose whos points count more. I mean literally, I don't see how the logistics would work, how do we decide what posts are more valid than others? I again re-iterate that BS is posted in all sections of the forum, not just the PATWAU section.
Again, I don't care for these points and you guys can all split mine up when the store opens, but I maintain that everyone here contributes in one way or another to the snuson community and everyones posts should count if we are going to have a reward system. Really I think the points should be weighted differently, but that's just me, I think right now the point systems favors people who post walls of text like I do and I don't think that is fair.
Then stop posting walls of text.... Easy as that.... LMFAO..... Oh! and stop using those damn big words...LOL
Your competely correct, that was a bad analogy on my part. Still, the point is that those who wish to abuse it could do so in any system, so lets worry less about abuse.
My point was that the people who take the time to make accounts usually end up finding their way to the PATWAU section, or sign up to join some heated debate happening there. It brings lurkers out of the dark. Lurkers will have no advantage either way since they get no points so why should they care anyways.
As far as snuffhouse being mianly about Tobacco, I think we can all agree that there is a reason why Snuson exists, and that is because it fills a void that places like snuffhouse do not fill. We have a special community here, and it's because we do things a little different.
But I agree, this is a Snus forum so the PATWAU should have a lower standing since it's not generally about snus.
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Originally posted by Roo View PostRick is a mod? I had no idea. You know what I was thinking? We tout ourselves as a mellow bunch of people, and the truth is that we are, but we also know how to act like some whiny little bitches. Ice hooks us up with this place, we should be more than happy to continue enjoying each other' company here on this site and really quit worrying about the gd points and let the man treat us right. I mean, do you really have suggestions for the guy who makes this all possible as to what he should do with a point system that already has a system in place? Christ. Remember what bitches we were when the VIP was announced? Don't do it again! Just chill out and be glad you're here and thankfull to our man Aki and... and I bid you all a good snus and to all, snuson.
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Originally posted by chadizzy1 View PostQuit being emo
Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......
I've been wrong lots of times. Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.
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Originally posted by jagmanss View PostWell said sgreger, But with that said.. Is incentivizes even a word... Haha I had to look it up... Just never saw it in a sentence before..lol
Lol, no no no, you see I said I think the points systems shouldn't give you more points based on how much you type, however you all will NEVER be free from my walls of text.
Even the Chinese ain't got shit on me, my walls of text are visible from space baby! I even got Ronald Reagan on the other line demanding that I "tear down that wall MR Sgreger1!", but you crazy crackas can't neva stop me!
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