E-Cigs to Quit Snus????

[NeonMouse]

It's an easy switch, easier then going from cigs to snus or cigs to ecigs. I'm preferring it to snus and I think my gums are recovering. I was on regular portions and 12mg eliquid is enough...

It's more presentable Imo to then having to stick your finger in your mouth to remove a portion, plus it's now easy to get eliquid and ecigs.

[Ansel]

i love lewes squeezy :-)

[Ansel]

you can easily quit snus with ecigs if you don't want to use both.

for me i have to watch i don't get too much nic with the eig or i get a big cloudy head.

good luck :-)

[squeezyjohn]

Good to hear from you Muddy! And I'm glad you have found something that works well for you. I was down in Lewes yesterday and thought of you as I went past the signs for Hayward's Heath.

Although I too am tempted to try vaping, I always remind myself that I am very happy with snus ... and that snus has been around for long enough that the long term health implications of using it has been studied and published, whereas vaping is too new to have had any kind of long term study of it's use to have any useful findings. No doubt it is far safer than smoking though.

[muddyfunkstar]

I've recently started vaping, and intend to quit snus.

I'm in the UK, and am getting sick of having to order snus by unreliable mail order, and the fact that I can only get V2 brands.

I ran out of snus last week, waiting for an order that got held up, so bought a starter vape rig, and very quickly realised that it was the way to go.

My snus order turned up a couple of days later, and I've barely touched it so far, just a couple of portions a day. So far, the vape is winning, but how much of that is down to it being a new thing, we'll see.

But yeah, loving my vape right now ��

[dquinn104]

I agree to a point ramping nic levels down may help and is not a bad idea but at some point you just have to pull the plug. I think snus is much more satisfying them vaping and imo potentially less harmful. I can feel the effects physically if I vape, stuffy nose, irritated throat, tight chest, much much less then smoking cigarettes but still there plus I am still leery of what chemicals/metals I may be getting from the atomizer and/or vape juice.

Yup, the amount of unknowns and variables with vaping ruin it for me.

[piks101]

I could never use e cigs to quit snus, as well as vice versa. I love them both! Sure, I may go some days doing exclusively one or the other, but I could never permanently do one or the other. IMO, if one wants to quit nicotine, the only way to go is cold turkey. The stepping down would never work for me.

I agree to a point ramping nic levels down may help and is not a bad idea but at some point you just have to pull the plug. I think snus is much more satisfying them vaping and imo potentially less harmful. I can feel the effects physically if I vape, stuffy nose, irritated throat, tight chest, much much less then smoking cigarettes but still there plus I am still leery of what chemicals/metals I may be getting from the atomizer and/or vape juice.

[dman21]

I could never use e cigs to quit snus, as well as vice versa. I love them both! Sure, I may go some days doing exclusively one or the other, but I could never permanently do one or the other. IMO, if one wants to quit nicotine, the only way to go is cold turkey. The stepping down would never work for me.

[piks101]

Unless you eat totally all natural foods and no processed foods whatsoever then its probably ok add salt to your diet. But nowadays there is way too much salt in the processed foods we consume. I certainly wouldn't add salt to anything. But that's just me and doc says to stay as sodium free as possible. At the dinner table I haven't added xtra salt to anything in years. Hell I even have to order my margaritas without salt. ;(


If you look around the site you may find where there was a big discussion on sodium, BP, and snus.

I agree, and the processed food is worse than the salt it contains. Again, I would never consult my doctor or a a traditional doctor for any dietary advise. The standard advise is whole grains and low fat and I follow a high saturated fat diet butter, lard, coconut oil, palm oil and some olive oil to a lesser degree (virtually zero vegetable or seed oils, and no imo canola oil is not a healthy option) and no grains especially wheat other than a few gluten free varieties white rice for example.

Traditional Docs virtually receive zero education on nutrition in medical school, so most of the diet info you receive from docs is courtesy of big pharma which supports their interest to push meds not getting a person healthy via diet. Hate to say it but big pharma wants you in their net not healthy and drug free.
http://www.naturalnews.com/036702_do...atalities.html

[Premium Parrots]

Unless you eat totally all natural foods and no processed foods whatsoever then its probably ok add salt to your diet. But nowadays there is way too much salt in the processed foods we consume. I certainly wouldn't add salt to anything. But that's just me and doc says to stay as sodium free as possible. At the dinner table I haven't added xtra salt to anything in years. Hell I even have to order my margaritas without salt. ;(


If you look around the site you may find where there was a big discussion on sodium, BP, and snus.

[piks101]

Your diet is the single most important thing to be aware of that can affect your health. For BP and hypertension #1 being to lower you sodium intake as much as possible.

Hey PP, I know where you are coming from that is the biggest recommendation you here as first line defense for high BP. Health is like religion, so I understand you have to tread carefully and respectfully as to others views. I haven't reduced my salt intake but I have changed the type of salt I use from standard table salt to Himalayan Salt. I salt to taste and look at it as a healthy addition to my diet. However everyone's diet needs can be different based on personal issues. Either way, I think salt has been unjustly vilified when it is actually more a nutrient then a toxin. Really imo, it comes down to getting enough salt but not too much, so elimination or too low consumption may be actually harmful just as too much could be harmful. The dose makes the poison.

https://chriskresser.com/specialreports/salt

[Premium Parrots]

Your diet is the single most important thing to be aware of that can affect your health. For BP and hypertension #1 being to lower you sodium intake as much as possible.

[piks101]

In bold I totally agree with. That's why I use either 0mg or 6 mg juice. As far as the BP meds go....I did say if you are already taking BP meds a bit of tweeking the dosage will fix that. BP meds very very rarely counter act with other meds and won't addict you to them and are not the kind of meds to hurt you. Take em if you need em without any worries.

I've been all over this issue with my doctor.

Of course quitting every tobacco product would be best.

I hear you on the meds you are taking for BP at least you are not going in blind and have researched/considered. As for docs, they are all over the place on quality of care and knowledge and typically are ignorant on diet as a medicine/treatment. Often meds can lower the symptoms but the underlying problem was never really addressed, kinda like cutting weeds at the top rather than the roots.

[Premium Parrots]

I would look more to your diet first. I have attached a good link below. As for e-cigs, I get more racey and spacey with e-cigs than I ever do with snus. I don't think e-cigs are a better alternative to snus to lower hypertension. Again, I would look at your diet first. Snus is likely not the main issue and doesn't necessarily have to be stopped. I would never take any pharma drugs to reduce BP unless the only option as any BP meds can literally be a prescription for more issues and more meds to counteract the other drugs leading to worse health imo.

http://chriskresser.com/6-ways-to-lo...ging-your-diet

In bold I totally agree with. That's why I use either 0mg or 6 mg juice. As far as the BP meds go....I did say if you are already taking BP meds a bit of tweeking the dosage will fix that. BP meds very very rarely counter act with other meds and won't addict you to them and are not the kind of meds to hurt you. Take em if you need em without any worries.

I've been all over this issue with my doctor.

Of course quitting every tobacco product would be best.

[piks101]

I would look more to your diet first. I have attached a good link below. As for e-cigs, I get more racey and spacey with e-cigs than I ever do with snus. I don't think e-cigs are a better alternative to snus to lower hypertension. Again, I would look at your diet first. Snus is likely not the main issue and doesn't necessarily have to be stopped. I would never take any pharma drugs to reduce BP unless the only option as any BP meds can literally be a prescription for more issues and more meds to counteract the other drugs leading to worse health imo.

http://chriskresser.com/6-ways-to-lo...ging-your-diet