How Safe is the E-Cigarette?

[precious007]

I just want to hear a few opinions on this. I'm definitely not going
to start vaping any time soon.

As a member on another forum I've read a discussion about the
e-cigarette and I'm still in doubts...

I mean it reduces the risks of cancer, definitely not inhaling so many
chemicals as with smoking tobacco, but are the nicotine vapors all
that healthy?

[lxskllr]

If the mist comes from China I don't trust it at all. If it's made by a real country, I still don't trust it, but there's more trust than Chinese mist. I've heard mixed reports about the pleasure, and nicotine delivery. If that were a slam dunk, I'd be cool with the untested nature, but when you add up all the drawbacks, lack of testing, and expense, it isn't isn't worth the bother.

To really answer the question, I don't know, and I don't think anyone else does either. Tobacco has had hundreds of years of testing. Ecigs, almost none.

[precious007]

If the mist comes from China I don't trust it at all. If it's made by a real country, I still don't trust it, but there's more trust than Chinese mist. I've heard mixed reports about the pleasure, and nicotine delivery. If that were a slam dunk, I'd be cool with the untested nature, but when you add up all the drawbacks, lack of testing, and expense, it isn't isn't worth the bother.

To really answer the question, I don't know, and I don't think anyone else does either. Tobacco has had hundreds of years of testing. Ecigs, almost none.

That's what I though too.

There's not very much testing to date on the e-cig.

I mean those nicotine vapors are still somehow dangerous for the lungs and breathing ...

The human isn't made to breather vapors in the end, but fresh air..

Just wanted some thoughts on this.

[GoVegan]

I have read many posts about e cigs and I have come to the conclusion that they are not as effective as using snus to stop smoking. A lot of the reviews read like NRT reviews in that it helps but you still have the feeling something is missing. They are also pricey and rely and batteries.

[precious007]

I have read many posts about e cigs and I have come to the conclusion that they are not as effective as using snus to stop smoking. A lot of the reviews read like NRT reviews in that it helps but you still have the feeling something is missing. They are also pricey and rely and batteries.

With most e-cigs, the juice is quite expensive to use them on daily basis.

Not as expensive as cigarettes, but still more expensive than snus ..

[Mordred]

In theory, e-cigs are perfectly safe. The e-liquid is basically vegetable glycerine or propylene glycol, with nicotine. This is then vaporized and inhaled. Nothing to worry about at all.

The problem though, lies in the quality control and possible additives.

Because the e-cig is a fairly new product in the western world, few reputable companies produce e-liquid and none produce the devices. Most of the e-liquid is imported from China. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean it's bad, but it may not be up to the security and quality standards you would expect.

Also, many companies purchase this base e-liquid and add their own flavouring. Again, this is probably fine, but many of the people doing this have absolutely no idea about biochemistry nor do they have the means to actually test their finished product. They just assume that using harmless flavourings in combination with harmless e-liquid is fine, which, most of the time, it is. Still, it's a bit amateurish for my taste.

All in all, I would recommend to anyone interested in e-cigs to do their homework and stick with reputable dealers. Be aware though, that a fancy website and packaging are pretty meaningless.

Finally, having used various e-cigs prior to snus, I can assure you that e-cigs, while they may work for some, are nowhere near as effective as snus. The nicotine delivery from them is poor and the hassle associated with them (constantly recharging batteries, refilling liquid, replacing spent atomizers) is very annoying.

[Snus]

There's a reputable place in Vermont that I would support if I vaped - a small-town (Castleton, I believe), little Mom-and-Son shop. I was going to try it out, as a last-ditch attempt to quit smorking. But then I accidentally discovered snus ;} If you run a search for "Vermont e-cigarette" you should find results.

[precious007]

In theory, e-cigs are perfectly safe. The e-liquid is basically vegetable glycerine or propylene glycol, with nicotine. This is then vaporized and inhaled. Nothing to worry about at all.

I still wonder if the constant vapor in your lungs are all that safe. I highly doubt it.

[muddyfunkstar]

I just don't see the point of the e-cig. I don't see how sucking on a fake cig is going to stop the cravings for a real cig - it's too similar a delivery system to break the habit with; and it'll just make you feel like you're depriving yourself of an actual cigarette.

Same with patches and gum - they might provide the nicotine, but they don't provide any satisfaction, so you end up feeling deprived and end up miserable.

[TommyGunBC]

Ecigs are great and safe I quit a 20+ year smoking habit with the ecig , it replicates the smoking feeling very well and the nic hit is there , and with so many different flavors of liquid it is just like snus so much to explore . I would have never found snus if it wasn't for the ecig I bought some ecig gear off a ecig classifieds and the seller included a can of thunder berry and that began my new found love for snus .

I have used ecigs for now over 2 years and had nothing but improving health , I use them all day everyday and pop a prilla or portion here and there to increase my vitamin N intake and I just recently got into snuffing .

to those leary of the ecig don't be there are many fine liquids made in the USA and stuff from reputable manufacturers in china that are very clean and upto or surpass USA manufacturing standards .


Vape on , Snus on and Snuff it !!

[precious007]

I just don't see the point of the e-cig. I don't see how sucking on a fake cig is going to stop the cravings for a real cig - it's too similar a delivery system to break the habit with; and it'll just make you feel like you're depriving yourself of an actual cigarette.

It's the nicotine that one needs to satisfy his/her cravings... The problem with the e-cig the way I see it ... is that you definitely can get hooked on it as well, so what the point in switching between a nasty habit and a bad one....

Snus is so much different..

[teeotee]

So here is my take on the ecig.

I also quit a 25 year habit with the E-Cig. It did satisfy my nic cravings, but like a lot of people i found that it was definitely missing something. To keep me satisfied i would have to vape a lot, almost constantly. Personally i think some of the missing elements were the "extra" chemicals in cigarettes because i still have that feeling with snus but nowhere near as much.
The unreliability of it got me in the end. Luckily i work at a desk all day so i made myself a usb thing so i didn't need batteries all the time. Away from the computer it really was a P.I.T.A.
As for the safeness, i really wasn't too worried abut buying from China but it was in the back of my mind. To be honest i was just glad to be getting away from cigs that i really didn't care too much. Now there is more of US companies making E-liquid and vaporizers which i would be more inclined to use should i want to get back into it. I have been considering trying it out again since i still have all the stuff in a drawer.
There are some studies out there on the safety of the liquid but not many independent studies as yet. Most are done by people involved in the business.

I am glad i tried the ecig though, because from there i found snus thanks to Tropical Bob on the e-cig forum.

[truthwolf1]

I took a big drag off of a friends for the first time last week and did get a nice little instant buzz. That device compared to snus would of really screwed with my mind in the begining of quiting but would of been good for those days when you really feel like you need to inhale something. I am way past that now.