Indian Snuffs......too much nicotine? WOW

[Christi]

That, or I can give him a good swift kick!

I think you should give him a big kiss when he gets home, and have a nice cup of hot chocolate waiting for him. I hear ExLax gives a nice chocolaty boost to the flavor ;^)

LOL!

That is funny, I would have to figure out how to get the EXlax into a beer tho, he wouldn't touch hot chocolate that close to beer-thirty.

[daruckis]

That, or I can give him a good swift kick!

I think you should give him a big kiss when he gets home, and have a nice cup of hot chocolate waiting for him. I hear ExLax gives a nice chocolaty boost to the flavor ;^)

LOL!

That is funny, I would have to figure out how to get the EXlax into a beer tho, he wouldn't touch hot chocolate that close to beer-thirty.

just pour a bottle of visine into it.

[Liandri]

You want more kissy an lovey but you're not exactly compromising yourself. In fact instead of just yor dip you brought snus AND snuff into the picture! So if anything you worsened it. Did you do all this before you were seeing her? Or did you just be like "OH HEY, I quit one tobacco for 2 more! aren't I the best?" You sound like the grumpy drunk at a bar that complains about his wife complaining about his drinking problem :-D.

Man up and tell her the same thing I told me wife *ahem* "You don't like it, the door is right there. You can either be on this side of it or that side of it"

Edit: Dork.

[LaZeR]

You want more kissy an lovey but you're not exactly compromising yourself. In fact instead of just yor dip you brought snus AND snuff into the picture! So if anything you worsened it. Did you do all this before you were seeing her? Or did you just be like "OH HEY, I quit one tobacco for 2 more! aren't I the best?" You sound like the grumpy drunk at a bar that complains about his wife complaining about his drinking problem :-D.

Man up and tell her the same thing I told me wife *ahem* "You don't like it, the door is right there. You can either be on this side of it or that side of it"

Edit: Dork.

STOP! You're killing me... :lol:

Anyhoo, I quit the dip for realizing how dirty it was this time around when in a relationship other than my hand. So I wouldn't go around looking like I french kissed with "dirty sanchez" when grinning, not to mention the improvised spittoons laying around. It was my choice to quite the copenhagen snuff (dip), not hers. I hit many road bumps along the way, trying chewing gum, sunflower seeds, masturbation, ect... Nothing would work. Then I tried some of that fake chew (non tobacco). I caught hell over this at the time even though it didn't require spitting. Struggled with that for a while until she finally backed off a bit. Then things just went to hell in a hand basket soon and I found myself falling into depression and anxiety along with pressures building at work where I'm used to turning to Vitamin N to calm my nerves. Enter Camel Snus... Co-worker had been doin it for months and I finally tried some AFTER running it by my fiance and pretty much apologizing to her that I just couldn't take what my life - moods - pressures were dealing me without my nicotine to lean on. Had a bit of turmoil to work through with this but in the end she backed off as long as I promised to stick to like only 4 portions a day. I started getting tired of the artificial taste of the Camel snoose and jumped on the interwebs and thus discovered this forum and the "real stuff". Early on as I stated my former tobacco usage and posted my ?s regarding snus, some folks mentioned the addition of nasal snuff to help level/satisfy my nicotine binges. For awhile I swore I wouldn't even touch the stuff. All I could think of was nasty brown snot and boogers falling out my nose and then the inevitable having to deal with whatever my fiance might have to unload on me about this. The more I read and researched nasal snuff, the more I became intrigued to try it. Of course with the fast acting nicotine hit along with finding myself really digging the different scents and delivery method in general, I've become somewhat attached to nasal snuff and it really helps me deal with the stressors especially at work. I told her all about my new discovery at the time and made the mistake of already ordering some without running it by her first but before my initial order from Toque arrived. It's been a fight ever since and something she has deemed me not to do around her whatsoever, not to ever bring into her house, and to promise to give up before the wedding date.

So anyhoo if you've followed my famous "how to convince fiance thread..." and various other discussions then you can also realize there is some more to it than on the surface. She's an ex-smoker, quit for 3+ years. Her perception of nicotine dependence and ability to quit is seemingly being based totally on what she has accomplished and thus being held against me not to mention she has stereotyped nasal snuff as some unforgivable evil yet when I press for a reason, I only get a "because its stupid" and "I don't like it and can't stand it, isn't that good enough...?"

Holy shit I just wrote another essay. But to cut to the point, I believe a fair compromise would be for me to not partake in her presence and as long as I keep clean about it and absolutely don't be around her with brown nose, ect... that should be good enough and just let me deal with my admitted nicotine addiction and what works for me but this isn't good enough as I've been served an ultimatum to cease and desist or "hit the road jack....".

Otherwise, I'm in love with her, YES. But I have a real issue with being controlled like this.

[Premium Parrots]

All in all LaZer I really do have alot or respect for you man. No man wants to be labled pussy whipped. But alas, when in love, a man will do just about anything.

You have been so gracious with all the kidding I/we have thrown at you so I know you must be a real decent guy to undestand that we ARE j/k.

If you really love her AND you are confident that she loves you then no matter what......in the end all will be well. My only concern is that it seems that she will not give an inch on the snuff subject. I would think that if she simply said "don't let me know that you are using it" would be enough. But it sounds like she has this unfounded hatred for this nic delivery system that she cares not to listen to the facts about.

Good luck and I hope she comes around on this issue. I know if it were me I just wouldn't let her know I was using. Well, either that of go the blue barrel and chainsaw route.


Hey I just thought of a good use for your empty snus tins. Think meat grinder instead of chainsaw.......and think snus tins instead of blue barrel. problem solved.

[Liandri]

PP is right. I am kidding, but not completely kidding. I know addictions and family and this crap. Can't let it build up. GOTTA talk with the wife about this. And if you reallllllly need it that bad just don't use it when she's around, and don't let her see any tins. When I chewed, all my wife asked was "Don't want to see the spit"

This isn't my first time with addiction though. I used to be a pipefitter and I never finished capping a weld without at least 4-5 shots in my to steady my hand. THAT was an agreement that she MOST DEFINATELY kicked my ass into agreeing to.

Also PP, gotta give an inch to get an inch. But seriously can't just bottle up and vent on a forum. May not like everything she says but ya gotta tough out talking about it completely.

Or if thats not go ya can always burn he house and claim the life insurance (whos life insurance?) NOBODIES!!! Just make sure to move snus and snuff into a safe location.

ALSO: lawl dirty sanchez. if that was the case you OBVIOUSLY have been using dip wrong all this time.

[Premium Parrots]

Also PP, gotta give an inch to get an inch.

A freaking inch won't do a dam thing but piss my wife off. It takes a good 8 inches to get my wife to chill out. All the while she does her share of screaming and moaning but she always ends up with a smile on her face when we are done. :wink:

[Liandri]

I go up to my wife and say "Hey I'd like a little P*****" She says "ME TOO MINES AS BIG AS A HOUSE!"

[LaZeR]

Also PP, gotta give an inch to get an inch.

A freaking inch won't do a dam thing but piss my wife off. It takes a good 8 inches to get my wife to chill out. All the while she does her share of screaming and moaning but she always ends up with a smile on her face when we are done. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: Now that is comedy I can relate to.

Nevertheless, thanks for all your comments (you to Liandri, much appreciated even the ribbing - see I can take it if I understand the intentions.). I realize I can't expect to solve this on the interwebz. Guess its just my chance to share my frustration and vent a little on the topic. It has obviously become a taboo subject to bring up in her presence. She feels one way and is seemingly set solid in her position and I have issues with it beyond just the fact. My problem, I just take people especially family and those closest to me too damn serious some times and along with wanting to be honest, well here is where I'm at now.

I'm obviously going to have to step back and take a different approach to dealing with this and make some decisions OR I'm going to stress out and have a damn heart attack or stroke.

ANyhoo in an attempt to get this thread back on topic since I've seriously derailed it:





SNUFFON!

[Christi]

I was going to be done with thinking about your woman giving you crap...but the more I thought about it the more I decided to throw this out.

My husband has tried at least 4 times the past 5 or 6 years to stop smoking. He has been cig free now for over a month, but he has a different frame of mind. No one has harped at him over, he decided to do it for him and his health. Good for him, right?! Well, that isn't exactly my point, but sort of. He and I have had our fights over alcohol consumption. He has had 4 DUI's and hasn't had his DL since he and I have been together. 4 years ago I told him quit drinking or get out. He left for a week, then crawled back saying he would quit drinking.

He didn't. I grew up and decided that our issues were not the alcohol they were me. I changed and learned that some battles are not worth fighting over.

If you and your wife to be are not planning on children then what is the issue? She just thinks it is gross, or bad for your health? Really sounds to me like she wants to control you. I have been down that road and find it is easier to control myself than my husband. Pick your battles.

[LaZeR]

If you and your wife to be are not planning on children then what is the issue? She just thinks it is gross, or bad for your health? Really sounds to me like she wants to control you. I have been down that road and find it is easier to control myself than my husband. Pick your battles.

Good points Christi. Thanks. :wink:

[LHB]

Anybody who is against nasal snuff is suffering from a severe "coolness" deficit.