Which Toque has the lowest nicotine?

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  • TheOneandOnly
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 616

    #1

    Which Toque has the lowest nicotine?

    Im in the habit like the rest of us to use snus and snuff a few times a day. I'm feeling I get a little too much nicotine when using both and was wondering if any Toque veterans can answer as to which Toque seems to have the lowest amount of nicotine.

    Toque's I've tried are Quit, X-Mas Pudding and Coke. These seem to be a little high on the nicotine.
  • sagedil
    Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 7077

    #2
    I think Roderick would need to answer this for sure, but I would expect that every Toque save the quit smoking version has the same amount. Snuff is simpler than snus. Tobacco ground up and flavorings added. I would think all the Toques have the same base tobacco, so the nicotine would be all the same.

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    • Toque Snuff
      Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 337

      #3
      Sagedil is right again.

      Quit has the highest TSNA levels 3.53 ppm as is SP Extra as both are made from 100% stemless leaves.

      The average TSNA of our snuffs is 2.98 ppm

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      • sagedil
        Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 7077

        #4
        :lol: :lol: :lol:

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        • RRK
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 926

          #5
          Wasn't the question nicotine content?

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          • Frankie
            Banned Users
            • Feb 2009
            • 17

            #6
            In snuffreviews.com they almost always state whether the nicotine hit is high/low/medium. A study I found stated nicotine hit from a pinch is the same as from a cigarette. But the reviews are subjective and the study subjects were using some South African stuff (snuff), even saying it can be home-made from cigarette tobacco using a coffee grinder.

            I am too nicotine-wary due to cardio issues, but answers to these questions are hard to find. TSNAs are nicely low, but I would like to know about nicotine per se.

            Funny: Toque uses excerpts from snuffreviews.com. Please, could you comment on the claims there that Blueberry Menthol is LOW in nic, St. Clements MEDIUM and Chocolate either MEDIUM od LOW?

            I would love to buy from Toque because of their prices, bullets and fair-play free shipping, but after a fiasco with Whiskey&Honey I am a bit afraid to...

            On the other hand, if Sagedil is right, the nic content is the same for every snuff and all the reviewers just have it wrong. In that case the only difference would be in grind and moisture, right?

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            • sagedil
              Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 7077

              #7
              I definitely didn't mean every snuff, just I suspect that it is consistent among Toque's. Roderick, from everything I have learned, uses the same nicotine base for *most* of his snuffs. Obviously, quit has more Rustica.

              But have been waiting for Roderick to come back to clarify

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              • chadizzy1
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 7432

                #8
                Originally posted by Toque Snuff
                Sagedil is right again.
                Don't feed his ego....

                :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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                • sagedil
                  Member
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 7077

                  #9
                  And don't listen to the rookies. So Chad, I see you haven't even been here for 6 months, not quite the expert after all. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:

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                  • chadizzy1
                    Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 7432

                    #10
                    Originally posted by sagedil
                    And don't listen to the rookies. So Chad, I see you haven't even been here for 6 months, not quite the expert after all. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :twisted:
                    AW CMON!
                    no love.

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                    • sagedil
                      Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 7077

                      #11
                      Umm, YOU were the one that started it. But as always, I am the one that finishes it. :P

                      You should have learned by now Mr. Chad. :wink:

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                      • chadizzy1
                        Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 7432

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sagedil
                        Umm, YOU were the one that started it. But as always, I am the one that finishes it. :P

                        You should have learned by now Mr. Chad. :wink:
                        I have seen the light!

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                        • Frankie
                          Banned Users
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 17

                          #13
                          Actually, he might be right for all snuffs.

                          This doc:
                          http://www.smokeless.org.nz/nasalsnuff_analyses.pdf

                          does not have the only one we are talking about :roll: but it compares nicotine contents of dry snuffs and the differences are minimal, just like with cigarettes: 0.7 to 1.1 or so. And my personal experience with cigs says you cannot feel any real difference (BP, pulse, pain) between light (0.7mg) and full flavour (1.1 mg) cig.

                          So I sort of agree - they should be more or less all the same nic-wise.

                          (Off topic: is Chocolate, Blueberry Menthol, Original and St. Clements good first (OK, second, but the first was not used) combination at Toque for a beginner returning to nicotine after months of abstinence/suffering? Sorry for highjacking, but once we are talking I wanted to peruse your experience :wink: )

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                          • Toque Snuff
                            Member
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 337

                            #14
                            TSNA’s are very relevant when compared to smoking tobacco, but as snuff is not burned it is very hard to compare like for like.

                            So please understand this is not the most technical answer and I’m not giving away any trade secrets, but a lot of what I’m telling you is common sense. Tobacco strength will have a bearing on the nicotine hit. Also the less stems/stalks in a snuff the faster the uptake. If you take a strong tobacco leaf and remove most of the stalk you will have a higher/faster nicotine uptake with a lower burn factor. Put simply, the higher the quality the subtler the burn and the faster the nicotine will be absorbed. The funny thing is that the more the snuff burns the stronger people think it is, however if it really burns, it’s most likely made from the leftover tobacco sweepings from the cigarette manufacturers.

                            The best way to check the quality of a snuff is to take a pinch getting an even quantity of snuff on your finger and thumb and squeeze the snuff into the septum between thumb and finger rubbing the snuff off your finger and thumb as you withdraw your fingers. The higher the burn the lower the quality of tobacco used.

                            Before anyone asks I would like to consider myself a business gentleman of the old school and I won’t badmouth a competitor so I’m not going to point fingers at anyone.

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                            • sagedil
                              Member
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 7077

                              #15
                              But Roderick, the question is really simple. Is the amount of nicotine consistent in most of your snuffs (obviously quit is higher). That was the original question in this post, which Toque variety had the lowest nicotine, I suspect that they are all mostly similar.

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