I tried snus and snuff the last two days and the winner is SNUFF!

[Snusdog]

I would add Hollandse and Mettaijer to the list of more natural offerings by Molens

Also give the Crests a try (Blue, Yellow, and Red) by Samuel Gawith. They are very toast like. However, be sure to order the Plain or unscented versions (each comes in both plain and SP or scented varieties)

And if you like American Scotches give Tops plain a try. To me it is the most complex of the Scotches out there. My hands down favorite from this side of the sea

[Faylool]

I still totally love Morrocco by Fridourg and Treyer and I still like snuff better than snus. I hope I don't get complications from snuffing no more than 6 times a day but I still use a large amount sniffing in as much as will stay in. Kinda sloppy but it delivers satisfaction and no need to do again for long time. I do vape but it's very sporadic and a whole whole lot less now. And lowering my nicotine in DIY soon because the vaping is more of a pastime, taste the flavor do a throat hit thing. I'll be using my rba for any WTA eliquid I get in supply. The only thing can't DIY. Well I can but I'm too lazy and it would cost more for me to make it than to just get it made up plus I really depend on snus and snuff for that. That's the only reason I changed from vaping full time to doing alternative tobacco products.
I want to like snus but it isn't as effective as snuff for me for some reason and plan on figuring out why. I like how you can forget about it ( put in back) but a few times I've started chewing it up with my meal! Forgetting about it.
Going to try very hard to get the deep inside story on some of the snuffs available and I have plenty of time now with so much on hand. Not its history so much but which tobacco they use. How many number of tobacco plants are actually involved for most and what country they are grown in. Amazon might have such books. I saw some books listed on this site too. Have to revisit that.

[rickcharles606]

I still totally love Morrocco by Fridourg and Treyer and I still like snuff better than snus. I hope I don't get complications from snuffing no more than 6 times a day but I still use a large amount sniffing in as much as will stay in. Kinda sloppy but it delivers satisfaction and no need to do again for long time. I do vape but it's very sporadic and a whole whole lot less now. And lowering my nicotine in DIY soon because the vaping is more of a pastime, taste the flavor do a throat hit thing. I'll be using my rba for any WTA eliquid I get in supply. The only thing can't DIY. Well I can but I'm too lazy and it would cost more for me to make it than to just get it made up plus I really depend on snus and snuff for that. That's the only reason I changed from vaping full time to doing alternative tobacco products.
I want to like snus but it isn't as effective as snuff for me for some reason and plan on figuring out why. I like how you can forget about it ( put in back) but a few times I've started chewing it up with my meal! Forgetting about it.
Going to try very hard to get the deep inside story on some of the snuffs available and I have plenty of time now with so much on hand. Not its history so much but which tobacco they use. How many number of tobacco plants are actually involved for most and what country they are grown in. Amazon might have such books. I saw some books listed on this site too. Have to revisit that.

I wonder if the fact that snuff is fermented and snus is steam pasteurized has any effect on WTA's? What if the fermentation process, allows the WTA's to remain intact, and the steam pasteurization process changes them somehow. Dunno....

[Faylool]

Snus dogs post made a good point about "available alkaloids" I figure if burning them doesn't destroy them ( smoking cigs, puffing pipe etc) then probably fermentation and /or steam isn't going to make the difference but the stuff they use to make it more available through oral means, like salt in snus, makes te difference in what I would actually get in me. Maybe there is a balance of the "other" stuff ( salt etc...) that effectively encourages the abotbtion of the whole tobacco alkaloids I desire and not the " get me wired and agitated" nicotine so much. I'm afraid they probably have to go hand in hand in the oral route actual tobacco sources. It can be isolated and then added back to something. Say added back to something that has had most the nicotine removed from. Well, that is available already in the vaping scene. I'm wanting cheaper, easier and snuff able ( or snus too) but I really am preferring snuff. In the vaping end of things I found out that a good RBA effectively delivers more nic per hit than a carto or premade set ups. I made myself nauseated vaping an RBA the way I usually vape the same liquid in other delivery devices. Soooo I'm getting some WTA in the mail here soon and see if it's the same deal. More effective use of expensive juice. I simply don't care enough about that getting more enough to pay the prices. And simply don't want to keeping getting more nicotine while I want the oter " good stuff " more.
im sure there's a market but it's seems specialty right now. I'm also getting a sample of an organic pipe tobacco I will simply puff. Who knows? Haven't tried that. It should be more easy! Less nic, more of the other minor alkaloids that help with calming. So far it hasn't been!

[Premium Parrots]

Might I suggest that whatever your choice of nicotine delivery that you simply enjoy the experiance. Hopefully that would be a non-dangerous delivery system like snus or snuff. I'm pretty sure you are chasing a dead dragon here, or a dragon thats not likely wake up. Relax and enjoy.

[Faylool]

I see your point about relax and enjoy sure. I can do that. I do it as much as possible. I do end up all wired up at the end of the day sometimes and THAT is what I want to avoid. Just saying it should be avoidable and affordable too

[daz]

hi faylool as you liking hdt you may not know it's a good mixing snuff , so if you find a snuff favour/make you like but it's to low on the nic for you drop in some hdt to bing it up a bit hope this little tip helps..

[Faylool]

Sure. I feel so BIG typing this out to you Daz from viewing your avatar! Weird. Of course I should be sleeping and again I'm not! Too much nic again. Hum dee dum. Thanks for tip for when I need more more nic. The snuff never says how strong or not strong. Wish I could sleep. I think I will be soon. I still haven't found your posts in health and snus because I keep getting sidetracked. Think I'll go see now.

Ha ha ha....research. So I need to lighten up? Yeah. Sometimes. And glad you survived the flu and collapsed lung. Scarey stuff. I've felt close to deaths door ths week with a nasty dry socket tooth extraction. No hospital for me. Just excruciating non stop pain that gets better sooo slowly you think it will last forever. Tonight it is a non event....after 4 days....finally. I should o to sleep.

[daz]

faylool most of us come here for the weird fun!! , and some time's we may even share abit of good info aswell but it's not allways about snus .....
p.s good luck with getting some sleep at last night night.