Non-compliant FDA brands : another perspective.

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  • chadizzy1
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    • May 2009
    • 7432

    #1

    Non-compliant FDA brands : another perspective.

    I was talking to a friend who works for one of the companies (not saying which) that is not on the FDA list, and he told me that one on of the reasons they are not complying with the FDA is because disclosing their ingredients would allow their competition to see what is different about some of their products and some of what goes into their snus - protecting their trade secrets, so to speak.

    I can't say this is true of all non compliant FDA brands, but this is another perspective to look at when trying to see why some companies won't gonthat extra mile to get their snus onto our shores.
  • tom502
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 8985

    #2
    But how would this do it? They all have ingrediant lists on their cans anyway. As far as their recipe goes, that would not be listed, it's not on the FDA compliant snus, nor on American dip cans. It would just be in the FDA file somewhere.

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    • chadizzy1
      Member
      • May 2009
      • 7432

      #3
      Originally posted by tom502 View Post
      But how would this do it? They all have ingrediant lists on their cans anyway. As far as their recipe goes, that would not be listed, it's not on the FDA compliant snus, nor on American dip cans. It would just be in the FDA file somewhere.
      Those files can be accessed by the public though.

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      • tom502
        Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 8985

        #4
        Well, if General, and Ettan, and Onyx, V2, and Gullivere don't mind, I don't see why anyone else would.

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        • Mr. Snuffleupagus
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 2781

          #5
          There are ways to do it without giving the actual recipe. Justin has posted about this on here. I believe Swedish Match breaks the secret ingredients down into such small bits and pieces it becomes unclear where they actually come from...

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          • danielan
            Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1514

            #6
            Originally posted by Mr. Snuffleupagus View Post
            There are ways to do it without giving the actual recipe. Justin has posted about this on here. I believe Swedish Match breaks the secret ingredients down into such small bits and pieces it becomes unclear where they actually come from...
            As I understand the FDA wants it broken down like JT suggested anyway. If you report to them that you are using "Aunt May's Special Citrus Flavor" they send you back to the remedial class.

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            • justintempler
              Member
              • Nov 2008
              • 3090

              #7
              You all know bergamot is one of the essential flavours in a lot of snus but I dare you to find it on Swedish Match's ingredient list...

              Bergamot Constituents:Linalyl acetate, bergamotine, beraptene, d-limonene, linalool... + some 300 others

              Once you break your ingredients down into their smaller constituents it's one giant puzzle because various flavours share some of the same constituents.

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              • truthwolf1
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2696

                #8
                Is this how they break down a bad ingredient/additive? Then the FDA really has no control over what a tobacco company can add into the mix.

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                • Premium Parrots
                  Super Moderators
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 9763

                  #9
                  thats how they are able get the fiberglass in it
                  Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of the people I killed because they were annoying......





                  I've been wrong lots of times.  Lots of times I've thought I was wrong only to find out that I was right in the beginning.


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                  • LaZeR
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                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3994

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Premium Parrots View Post
                    thats how they are able get the fiberglass in it
                    I was just going to ask this very ?

                    That would explain when you break it down and 'google' American dip, you get the referenced ingredients of fiberglass and formaldehyde.

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                    • danielan
                      Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 1514

                      #11
                      Originally posted by truthwolf1 View Post
                      Is this how they break down a bad ingredient/additive? Then the FDA really has no control over what a tobacco company can add into the mix.
                      Well, there's a lower limit too. I'm sure that they will suspect something if all your ingredients are listed on the periodic table.

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                      • sgreger1
                        Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 9451

                        #12
                        Originally posted by danielan View Post
                        Well, there's a lower limit too. I'm sure that they will suspect something if all your ingredients are listed on the periodic table.
                        AHhaah


                        Ingredients: 5 electrons, 3 muons, 2 protons, 1 nucleus, 1 higgs boson particle
                        Flavorings: 17 x10^99 super strings vibrating at 0.5mhz frequency in the 5th dimension

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                        • Fury
                          Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 205

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sgreger1 View Post
                          AHhaah


                          Ingredients: 5 electrons, 3 muons, 2 protons, 1 nucleus, 1 higgs boson particle
                          Flavorings: 17 x10^99 super strings vibrating at 0.5mhz frequency in the 5th dimension
                          Offroad Original lös?

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