Need some experienced opinions

[Patnotron]

Hey everyone,
Im new to this forum and forums in general so i appologize for post misplacement or looking for info already available.
Ive smoked for about 6 years ans dipped for the last 2. Ive tried snus once a couple years and am now trying to make a complete changeover. Ive tried a couple different types but as of late i tend to lean towards more natural flavors and beggining to notice the subtleys in flavors. I like phantom classics but notice i dont quite get a good nic hit unless i pop 2, then its quite nice. (i previously dipped grizzly and kodiak and woukd finish a tin in about 5 lip packs) i dont know if this effects the tolerance. Ive been looking into the lab series and read some articles. I wanted some more personal opinions of experinced users on the lab 06 extra strong series
- some sites say the nic content is 20mg some say 12.5mg, which is it?
- not a lot of Experienced users tend to use this snus, is it more for newbs or not that great?
Is the nic hit too intense compared to my usuall 2 portions of phantom.
- and other brand and type suggestions would be nice as well
Thanks for the patience everyone.

[justintempler]

If you've already been a dipper then why not go for lös? You can always increase the size of your prilla for a bigger nic hit. Lös comes in 45 gram cans vs 24 grams for portions so you actually get more for your money and can afford a bigger prilla. You want natural? Then go with Ettan or Grov..

[Frosted]

The los is a good suggestion but some people can't los because of their jobs, convenience etc.

Try Odens Extreme - at least buy a tin and try it.

[Patnotron]

Thanks, ive actully been contemplating getting some los to try but wasnt sure where to start, i was never really bashful anout having a fat lip pack in and carrying a spit bottle (working 3rd shift as i do means you can get away with things like this), i only leaned towards the portion because ive been seeing post about people having the pris fall apart and wanted to stick with ease at first. I do like the idea of the freedom to dictate our own size and strengh of your portion though so los is certainly in my next order, at least to try and see if i can handle it(im thinking it may not be as hard as im thinking it is. I have done some looking into odens and i am interested, the strength has me a bit worried because i dont want to put one in and proceed to drop a brick in my pants and fall over, but i think i may as well try a tin and see how it feels.
Thanks so far!

[Frosted]

Don't worry about the strength. By the sound of it you need something strong and anyway, I don't think Extreme is that strong. It tastes great. If you find it's too strong, simply take it out and you'll be fine in a few seconds. Definately give a tin of portions a try.
With los you can obviously adjust the strength.

[muddyfunkstar]

Try some regular starks as well - Nick & Johnny, Skruf and 02 are all good strong portions that aren't excessively flavoured. Nick & Johnny is one of the best tasting snus around, imo.

[Ansel]

Skruf Stark!

[ABW]

Skruf Stark!

+1 to that...

[precious007]

Skruf Xtra Stark Loose

[Patnotron]

Thanks for all the suggestions, i should have quite a variety next order, does stark just mean strong or bold or something along those lines?

[crullers]

Stark (or sterk) refers to a strong nicotine level, not necessarily "bold" as in flavour. I agree with the posts above that a stark lös would be the best bet if you want to change over to snus from smokes/dip. I am a snus noob - or snubie - but just beat the shit out of a 25 year pack-a-day smoking habit with sterk snus. First with portions, but now almost exclusively lös. 3 months and loving it.

Not sure where you are located, but I assume that the fact that you have dipped Kodiak and Grizzly you are in the U.S. I have shouted out for Skruf Xtra sterk los, and agree with the recommendations above for it, but have found out that it may not be available in the states. In that case I would recommend Oden's Extreme lös or General Extra Sterk. I didn't get on too well with Oden's 59 extreme, but YMMV.

[Reynard]

I am a snus noob - or snubie - but just beat the shit out of a 25 year pack-a-day smoking habit with sterk snus.

Well done! If only snus were more publicised and we'd have more people quitting smoking cigarettes. We all know on here that it's miles better for you than smoking. I wish you a happy non-smoking new year!

[crullers]

Well done! If only snus were more publicised and we'd have more people quitting smoking cigarettes. We all know on here that it's miles better for you than smoking. I wish you a happy non-smoking new year!

Thanks, Vulpes. If my figuring is correct, you have just ushered in the new year - happy new year to you and yours!

On this side of the pond and on my side of the border there is a big stigma attached to oral tobacco so it is an uphill battle trying to convince those who really want to quit smoking to give it a try. Plus, advertisement of any tobacco products here in Canada is forbidden. Cigarettes are kept out of view from the customer. A Smoke shop here recently started selling General products, but the only way they could let anybody know is with a small sign saying "Swedish Snus Sold Here" behind the counter.

Patnotron - Sorry if this has gone a bit off topic, but it is support like this from other forum members which make the switch over to snus from smoking, etc. much easier. There is a wealth of information here. Check out the archives, tons of good stuff there.

[Patnotron]

All the information has been great so far and as for going off topic its not a problem, its good to see theres some good support within the community!

[resnor]

As a former dipper, I find that the "nic hit" is something that is lost on me. I use Skruf Extra Stark, Oden's Extreme, Jacobsson's Strong, Thunder Strong, and never have a problem with it. I love the Skruf, loose and portions. Oden's Extreme, I hate the loose, but love the portions...if you try Oden's, I'd recommend giving both a shot.