How much nicotine is absorbed from snus...?!

[precious007]

General ES loose is 13mg nicotine/g snus
Thunder ES loose is 16mg nicotine/g snus
Odens Kanel ES loose is 17mg nicotine/g snus
Skruf ES loose is unknown nicotine/g snus. (they claim to have the highest amount of nicotine)

I know ;-)

But still General ES Loose and Skruf XS loose will give you much higher nicotine kick!

[Cenex]

I've heard about this alot, But what I want to know is if drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth and affect the amount of nicotine absorption, What drinks and food and such would raise the pH level in the mouth and then cause an increased absorbtion rate..

You'd think coke and it's sweet burning phosphoric acid would help.

[LincolnSnuff]

You'd think coke and it's sweet burning phosphoric acid would help.

You would need a basic or alkaline drink, not acidic. Try drinking ammonia or better yet a solution of baking soda and water. I have heard of putting baking soda in nasal snuff to increase absorption. I wonder what mixing it with snus would do?

[precious007]

You would need a basic or alkaline drink, not acidic. Try drinking ammonia or better yet a solution of baking soda and water. I have heard of putting baking soda in nasal snuff to increase absorption. I wonder what mixing it with snus would do?

Here's a video on youtube - Coke Snus

LoL, this guy's from Northerner I think .. yeah that's him...

I wonder why Match doesn't produce a coke snus ..

[snusgetter]

You would need a basic or alkaline drink, not acidic. Try drinking ammonia or better yet a solution of baking soda and water. I have heard of putting baking soda in nasal snuff to increase absorption. I wonder what mixing it with snus would do?

I've had mixed results using Tom of Maine's Baking Soda Mouthwash prior to
testing some of my vacuum-marinated creations. Wish they made it unflavored;
the peppermint flavor seems to get in the way sometimes.

I have some Biotene Moisturizing Mouth Spray that I use occasionally at bedtime
for dry mouth relief so I don't feel like I've got a mouth full of cotton that awakens
me in the middle of the night, especially in winter with forced hot-air heating. It's
convenient to carry and to use so I'm thinking I might give that a try ... hopefully
it has an alkalizing effect in relation to snus.

[jagmanss]

I've done some research on nicotine uptake from snus, and it's estimated that 10%-15% of the nicotine from snus is absorbed into the body.

General Ekstra Sterk Portion contains 15mg per portion.

Thus, a portion of GES will delivery between 1.5mg to 2.25mg of nicotine.

Comparatively, a standard 8mg portion will delivery between 0.8mg to 1.2mg of nicotine.There are other factors that affect nicotine absorption. The pH level of the mouth can lower or raise the amount of nicotine absorbed from snus. For example, drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. Another important factor is portion manipulation. Pushing the portion with the tongue will "drain" the portion and result in a higher level of nicotine absorption.

Ok! So I guess what were saying is besides drinking baking soda and water, Which we don't want to do anything you drink or eat will only lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. So then in order to get absorbtion of the examples above of GES you would have to not drink or eat anything, Correct? Is that what we are saying?

[precious007]

Ok! So I guess what were saying is besides drinking baking soda and water, Which we don't want to do anything you drink or eat will only lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. So then in order to get absorbtion of the examples above of GES you would have to not drink or eat anything, Correct? Is that what we are saying?

First of all, lowering and increasing the pH level in the mouth will lead to tooth decays and severe gum problems.

Snus alone does that so I think it's better to have a constant pH rather than increasing or lowering it with other foods.

Just a though.

[WickedKitchen]

Now if only Northerner would come up with some new flavors! Cinnamon
(à la Big Red) would be nice; so would a coffee/vanilla. I was hoping to
try the Northerner Christmas Snus but that's looking more and more
doubtful; still waiting to hear from an overseas friend on that one.

You're not missing much with that Christmas snus, Getter. I thought it was too sweet and small. Gotlands is the good one, IMO. The Catch cinnamon one was pretty terrible too...I remember it having a vanilla sort of undertone to it.

[v2]

The kick can could faster by several different ways; high moisture, high pH, high nicotinic and some flavor helps absorption of nicotinic
or a combination

[snusjus]

The kick can could faster by several different ways; high moisture, high pH, high nicotinic and some flavor helps absorption of nicotinic
or a combination

If you don't mind me asking, what is the pH level of v2 products? Do they vary by brand as well?

[jagmanss]

First of all, lowering and increasing the pH level in the mouth will lead to tooth decays and severe gum problems.

Snus alone does that so I think it's better to have a constant pH rather than increasing or lowering it with other foods.

Just a though.

Ok then explain to me how you would go about keeping a constant ph in your mouth if drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine.

[precious007]

Ok then explain to me how you would go about keeping a constant ph in your mouth if drinking coffee, beer, or soft drinks will lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine.

Probably the only way to keep a constant pH in the mouth is to go vegan ...

I guess the oral hygiene is the most important: (off topic but still important)

Here's a few tips:

According to World Dental,[5] these are the top ten beneficial foods for teeth.

1. Green tea contains polyphenol antioxidant plant compounds that reduce plaque and help reduce cavities and gum disease. Tea may help reduce bad breath. Tooth enamel is strengthened because green tea contains fluoride which promotes healthy teeth.
2. Milk and yogurt are good for teeth because they contain low acidity, which means that wearing of teeth is less. They are also low in decay-inducing sugar. Milk is a good source of calcium, the main component of teeth and bones.
3. Cheese contains calcium and phosphate, which helps balance pH in the mouth,[citation needed] preserves (and rebuilds) tooth enamel, produces saliva, and kills bacteria[citation needed] that cause cavities and disease.
4. Fruits such as apples, strawberries and kiwis contain Vitamin C. This vitamin is considered the element that holds cells together. If this vitamin is neglected, gum cells can break down, making gums tender and susceptible to disease.
5. Vegetables: Vitamin A, found in pumpkins, carrots, sweet potatoes and broccoli, is necessary for the formation of tooth enamel. Crunchy vegetables may also help clean gums.
6. Onions contain antibacterial sulfur compounds. Tests show that onions kill various types of bacteria,[citation needed] especially when eaten raw.
7. Celery protects teeth by producing saliva which neutralizes bacteria that cause cavities. It also massages the teeth and gums.
8. Sesame seeds reduce plaque and help build tooth enamel.[citation needed] They are also very high in calcium.
9. Animal food: beef, chicken, turkey, and eggs contain phosphorus which, with calcium, is one of the two most vital minerals of teeth and bone.
10. Water cleans the mouth and produces saliva that deposits essential minerals into the teeth. It keeps teeth hydrated[clarification needed] and washes away particles from the teeth.


(I've just spoke to my dentist and she told me that there's no way that oral tobacco would not affect the teeth and gums on the long run simply because it fluctuates the pH, I was curios to hear it from an expert...)

[snusjus]

Ok! So I guess what were saying is besides drinking baking soda and water, Which we don't want to do anything you drink or eat will only lower the pH level in the mouth, resulting in a lowered exposure to nicotine. So then in order to get absorbtion of the examples above of GES you would have to not drink or eat anything, Correct? Is that what we are saying?

In a way, yes. However, the best way to efficiently absorb nicotine from snus is to wait fifteen minutes after consuming a low pH beverage, since it takes some time for the saliva to become pH neutral. However, if you're out on the town drinking beer, it may be a rule you should ignore.