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[Joe234]

Did I miss something in history class? Where we the only country to have slavery? Was every other country tolerant always? Are all countries more tolerant than us today? I think in comparison, you will find that America is the most diverse, and even our leaders are more diverse than any other country I can think of. We have the least strict border laws and some of the harshest hate crime legislation. Please someone point out to me how America is somehow xenophobic in comparison to any other given country.

It took us at least 20 years after Europe ended slavery and a civil war.
The Americans massacred the Indians.

[Ainkor]

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Welcome to the thread Judge. I was almost out of popcorn. This should get good!

[sgreger1]

It took us at least 20 years after Europe ended slavery and a civil war.
The Americans massacred the Indians.

Yah it was about 30 years, which is negligible if you ask me. The point is that the US has really gone out of it's way to not descriminate against minorities in recent years especially, and minorities nearly outnumber whites according to the latest census data. My point is that in a nation with such diversity, I don't think it is fair to say we are all racists. Are you a racist Joe? I don't think so, but some such as JudgeFaust would like to make the claim that you are a xenophobe and hate brown people just because you reside in America.


We massacered the indians but so what? Name a country that has never taken over a territory by violent force? Really, by that standard everyone is racist. Conquering lands militarilly was not inveted by Americans, for those of you homeschoole kids who missed History class.

[Joe234]

We massacered the indians but so what? Name a country that has never taken over a territory by violent force? Really, by that standard everyone is racist. Conquering lands militarilly was not inveted by Americans, for those of you homeschoole kids who missed History class.

As George Carlin said, " There is no hope for the human race."

[Curtisp]

That link just became my new desktop, thanks Lazer!..long live the N R A..

[sgreger1]

As George Carlin said, " There is no hope for the human race."

I'm not entirely convinced there is any hope out there myself! I'm not saying I condone it or that I would want to in any way endorce violent takeovers, but for you to cite the United States overthrowing the Indians as some kind of basis to discriminate against white people seems a little out of line. Because we took over something militarily does not make us racist, especially since at the time the indians were considered "savages" by the simple minded settlers as well as everyone else in the America's at the time. Keep in mind that the british came here, the Spaniards, the French etc. So why are only Americans racist because we faught the indians? Because we won?


I'm just saying, it's not fair for someone to come and call you a racist just because your American Joe , I mean you know your not racist right? Just because your american, should people stereotype you and assume your a xenophobe? Is that not the type of stereotypes we have faught so hard to rid the world of? In your daily travels, honestly how man klansmen do you meet? Ive known racists as surely as anyone else has, but as far as American society is concerned, I think it should be quiet apparent that truly racist individuals are in the vast majority. Furthermore, racism in minorities seems to be at an all time high. In the past it was the whites out demonstrating their hatred for blacks or latino's, now it's the latino's and the blacks out having million man rallies calling for the overthrow of America and the murder of the "feeble white man". Surely you don't condone such things in this day and age do you? I thought we were past that. The civil rights movement started out as a good and much needed overturn of centuries worth of racism in our culture, yet it has in recent years turned into a call to arms against white people, which brings us back to square one. Why are we taking 1 step forward just to take 2 steps back? You should stand up for the rights of people even if you aren't the one being targeted at the moment. But in this case, as an American, you are being targeted, so i'm not sure why you would wish to justify such a racist statement as judge faust made.

[f. bandersnatch]

sgreger- your equivocation of diversity with tolerance or acceptance is pretty shaky ground upon which to build your Walt Disney World's "its a small world after all" version of America. Like I said, I don't think America is categorically intolerant, but the fraction of Americans that do it do it well enough to maintain the stigma, that's all I'm saying.

snusgetter- One can be both racist and afraid, the two go hand in hand. My math is not wrong, and the data is sound, I checked with my sources.

[sgreger1]

sgreger- your equivocation of diversity with tolerance or acceptance is pretty shaky ground upon which to build your Walt Disney World's "its a small world after all" version of America. Like I said, I don't think America is categorically intolerant, but the fraction of Americans that do it do it well enough to maintain the stigma, that's all I'm saying.

snusgetter- One can be both racist and afraid, the two go hand in hand. My math is not wrong, and the data is sound, I checked with my sources.

No, this is absolute slander and outright bullshit. Please, someone compare us to another major country that is so much more tolerant than us. WHO HAS A BLACK ****ING PRESIDENT in a mainly white country? Name one, please. And what about the black caucus in congress? What about the fact that at the smallest hint of racism, the media and all of America will lash out at any group? Seriousely the amount of truly racist people is so small, most of us are unlikely to even run across them in our daily lives. So to hear an absolute bullshit statement like "Americans tend tobe xenophobes" is false, in that it assumes that at least the majority or the "average" american is a xenophobe. That is outright bullshit. Can someone get me a list of interracial marriages in America compared to the rest of the world?


You are all apologists for the enemy, trying to make it sound like our country is so intollerant and that living here as a minority is just the worst thing in the world, it might as well be 1940's Germany, amirite? (had to plug hitler at least once in this post).

[f. bandersnatch]

sgreger- please read what I wrote and explain to me how we are not on pretty much the same page.

I say again: America is not racist, but I can understand how outsiders would misrepresent us as such because the small number of racists in this county garner both attention and vitriol from the media, hence, America is represented as racist.

I like you man, but you need to take a little time to read a process the things that people write on here before completely losing your shit. Take a couple deep breaths, ponder and then commence with your next inflammatory, grammatically offensive spattering of misspelled words and broad generalizations.

You live in San Francisco, also, which is something to consider when you are telling me that you do not meet racist people on a day to day basis. I live in a city where neighborhood regulations prevented blacks and jews from living in western suburbs up until the 70s. I live in a city with a defacto race line on the east side that was established through politically controlled zoning of the school districts. Kansas City and many other midwestern towns have a rich history segregation that is still present today in both effect and motive.

[snusgetter]

snusgetter- One can be both racist and afraid, the two go hand in hand. My math is not wrong, and the data is sound, I checked with my sources.

Gotcha. The way I read it, I didn't reckon with the overlap in the percentages.
Mea culpa.
ISC

[Joe234]

I'm not entirely convinced there is any hope out there myself! I'm not saying I condone it or that I would want to in any way endorce violent takeovers, but for you to cite the United States overthrowing the Indians as some kind of basis to discriminate against white people seems a little out of line. Because we took over something militarily does not make us racist, especially since at the time the indians were considered "savages" by the simple minded settlers as well as everyone else in the America's at the time. Keep in mind that the british came here, the Spaniards, the French etc. So why are only Americans racist because we faught the indians? Because we won?

I brought it up because the National Socialist on CNN said the white people need a homeland
in America. They have one in Europe. America is for the Native Americans, if we use the National
Socialist's logic.

[Snusdog]

I brought it up because the National Socialist on CNN said the white people need a homeland
in America. They have one in Europe. America is for the Native Americans, if we use the National
Socialist's logic.

Of course if we use the Congressional Socialist's logic...................... they can't even sell damn cigarettes over the internet.

Go figure

[sgreger1]

sgreger- please read what I wrote and explain to me how we are not on pretty much the same page.

I say again: America is not racist, but I can understand how outsiders would misrepresent us as such because the small number of racists in this county garner both attention and vitriol from the media, hence, America is represented as racist.

I like you man, but you need to take a little time to read a process the things that people write on here before completely losing your shit. Take a couple deep breaths, ponder and then commence with your next inflammatory, grammatically offensive spattering of misspelled words and broad generalizations.

You live in San Francisco, also, which is something to consider when you are telling me that you do not meet racist people on a day to day basis. I live in a city where neighborhood regulations prevented blacks and jews from living in western suburbs up until the 70s. I live in a city with a defacto race line on the east side that was established through politically controlled zoning of the school districts. Kansas City and many other midwestern towns have a rich history segregation that is still present today in both effect and motive.

I heard what you said, I just don't agree with it. I think any minority of people here in America who are still genuinely white power types are no greater a demographic than in any other country. Every country has racists, and I think in any nation of 400 million people you are going to find a few racists.

Secondly, I have lived in Many states, not just California but also Georgia, Oklahoma, North Carolina, etc and have traveled to at least 10 others and spent a bit of time there. I am aware that everyone is not as "tolerant" (and I use the term REALLY loosely) as people in San Francisco, but at the same time I really do think the number of true racists are negligible. I am aware how thing were during the last century and I realize a lot of that spread up through the 70's. I'm just saying that other countries have been racist for a long time as well, so not sure why US gets a bad wrap. Im saying that relitive to any other comparable nation, we are no more or no less racist than anyone else.


And if my inflammatory and grammatically offensive posts piss you off, than mabe I sHuld g0 bak 2 skool so I caan learns how 2 makz bettur arguments on the |/\/t3rNets.

Just like if someone was on here saying all black people are rapists, and I were black, I am just defending a broad categorization that I do not believe to be true, and resent that anyone would even make such a statement.

[sgreger1]

I brought it up because the National Socialist on CNN said the white people need a homeland
in America. They have one in Europe. America is for the Native Americans, if we use the National
Socialist's logic.

National socialists are idiots. The only reason this guy who is in the .0000001% minority gets any airtime is because his opinion is expedient to the agenda some news networks are trying to accomplish. That agenda being that white people are all like this guy. I can find a million videos of Mexicans talking about how they want to kill whitey and take back their country, but I see them getting very little airtime on most major networks. Coincidence? No, because nowadays everyone has an agenda and a bias, especially the media shock jockeys.


White people are not just from Europe, and Europe is by no means a white nation anymore than this is a white nation. They have a rapidly growing minority demographic as well, like any large country. I could say that this land is really the neanderthal's land or that the middle east really belongs to the Egyptians or the Persian empire, it depends how far I want to go back to make a false argument with no basis.

[lxskllr]

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