The lack of respect and the decline of today's society. (RANT)

[Snusdog]

And who the hell is this?

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its nash bro...........

when you can't get it.............you have to be it


and lest anyone think I am not showing respect.........on the respect thread...........I prefer to think of it as.......... indefinitely deferred courtesy...................

[whalen]

What stats is right, she's flailing. Are you sure that isn't Oprah? I got these new glasses, progressives.
This is Oprah right? And who the hell is this?

[Snusdog]

I was watching Oprah BTW! (somebody has too, have you seen the stats?)

Bless his heart........um............whalen dear..............oprah has been off the air for over a year.........that's just PP standing in front of the TV again.............looking for the little folk

..............and while we are at it.........what stats

[whalen]

MY EYES.........................MY EYES


yall some messed up mofos...........sneaking up into Whalen's house like that..............while he's watching Vanna and the Wheel

I was watching Oprah BTW! (somebody has too, have you seen the stats?)

[Bigblue1]

I hope you're joking.

Yes sir I was

[Frosted]

I'm pretty sure that the pciture with the balls hanging out was very much disrespectful to the rest of us. Or not courteous if your sgreger.

I hope you're joking.

[Bigblue1]

I'm pretty sure that the pciture with the balls hanging out was very much disrespectful to the rest of us. Or not courteous if your sgreger.

[Snusdog]

MY EYES.........................MY EYES


yall some messed up mofos...........sneaking up into Whalen's house like that..............while he's watching Vanna and the Wheel

I respectfully disagree with all those who think that respect is something that is earned. On its most basic and fundamental level respect is something that is given. Respect in this most basic sense is our response to the inherent value of others. In the south we say yes mam to a lady and yes sir to a gentleman regardless of whether we have ever met them.

Dog, I couldn't have said it better. Many of us in the north say and do the same thing. Unfortunately not enough.

[whalen]

Ah, the simple pleasures of growing older. And , when I lived in Arizona, in the summer, that was standard operating procedure. That and sitting on an occasional Popsicle . All that is missing from that picture now is the dog, and peanut butter.................

[whalen]

The wife took a photo of me reading that.



That's for Whalen too.

That worked like a charm, I am still trying to find that Grov portion that was in my mouth when i opened that! It's under there somewhere. I had a good hard belly laugh at that one! But Parrots comes to mind now!

Oh, allow me PP...............................!

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lmao ExFrost


you can all thank me now for not quoting his post.....so we didn't have to see that again.

[Frosted]

Man I don't know how I missed all the fun

But going back and rereading it I have come to the resolute conclusion that snus on is full of geniuses

We know this because............. everyone has irrefutable evidence that everyone else is a dumb ass

Unfortunately...........not one of you rocket scientist have figured how a lowly soul like me can order LD in the USA or have come up with a working can solution for the nice folks at Gellivare................

My input on the thread would have gone something like this

I respectfully disagree with all those who think that respect is something that is earned. On its most basic and fundamental level respect is something that is given. Respect in this most basic sense is our response to the inherent value of others. In the south we say yes mam to a lady and yes sir to a gentleman regardless of whether we have ever met them.

If we begin with respect as something earned..............then the value of another person is reduced to their value to me............which ironically............subordinates others to the ego of the self...............which in turn is the very opposite of respect (deference of self to others)

It is no surprise that in a society that is grounded on the self (morality is self-choice not obligation................religion is personal belief......................and truth is opinion) that we find (a) a lack of respect and (b) the inability given our basic fundamental assumptions about self............to regain the notion of respect in any but a nostalgic way.

That said..............in a secondary sense respect can be lost and earned (but only after we have the notion of respect properly grounded)

A person who behave in a way unbecoming of his value (lies, steals, hurts others) will lose our respect.......but notice how the loss of respect must presuppose an initial and created (inherent if you would) respect to be lost.

Respect can be earned in terms of a specific aspect or area of life. A coach might have to earn the respect of his team................back to back losing seasons and he might lose that respect.

But again notice how this secondary earned respect still presupposes the initial and fundamental respect. ………..We may think the coach needs to be fired..........we may be vocal and passionate about it...........however, we are horrified when people begin to threaten the coach or harass his family (the man is a lousy coach.............but he is still a person and a dad).............and therefore deserves to be treated with decency

Also...............I would be careful about conflating morality and epistemology...........ie...........more education will yield morally better people....or in this case a more respectful society...........that was the mistake of the enlightenment...............and the enlightenment has died a disastrous death philosophically (think postmodernism)

Better educated families have fewer children............because they are economically motivated to do so............it is this same motivation that will pollute the streams to avoid the high cost of responsible disposal of industrial waste............it is also this same greed that will pay a worker the least amount they can......not what they are worth.....thus promoting the very squalor we were quick to look to these men and their education to prevent.

Finally, I offer to you an older view of intelligence.........one not based on the abstract concept of knowledge..........but on the ability to carry your field forward and to produce something of worth to others...........Aristotle would have called it craft...............

The wife took a photo of me reading that.



That's for Whalen too.

[Snusdog]

wheres erichill when you need him

or

alright.........forget everything I said

just stop your bitching............ and stay on the damn sidewalks.........bunch of ingrates

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wheres erichill when you need him

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