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    Oral cancer?

    Hello, I'm a newbie when it comes to snus. So far I love it! I was wondering what the risks of oral cancer are from snus. I apologize if this has already been covered in another post, but I couldn't find any info. Thanks!

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    Studies on Swedish snus (including some very large ones) show no increase in the risk of oral cancer. However, there was a slight (statistically insignificant) increased risk of pancreatic cancer. The risks of both oral and pancreatic cancers were higher in smokers.

    It's inconclusive whether snus increases the risk of cardiac problems. If so, that increase is significantly lower than that seen with smoking.

    The only area where snus seems to be riskier with smoking is with gum recession. IIRC, about 2% of portion snus users develop snus-related gum recession. That number was quite a bit higher for users of loose snus.

    Snus also seems to cause staining, but so does smoking, coffee, soda, etc.

    There's some good information here:
    http://www.swedishmatch.com/en/Snus-...earch-on-snus/

    --K

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    http://www.smokersonly.org/product_f...s_tobacco.html

    The Role of Smokeless Tobacco in Smoking Cessation
    Tobacco Use and Cancer: A Reappraisal. Published in Oral Surgery, Oral Medicine, Oral Pathology (Volume 80, pages 178-182, August 1995) by Nadarajah Vigneswaran, Ken Tilashalski, Brad Rodu, and Philip Cole.
    With approximately 6 million users, smokeless tobacco has received considerable scrutiny as a risk factor for oral cancer. We review the relationship between smokeless tobacco use, white callous-like patches in the mouth called keratosis, and oral cancer. Although relatively common, several features of smokeless tobacco keratosis make it less likely to be precancerous than leukoplakia (literally "white patch") associated with smoking. Previous research has demonstrated that the relative risk (RR) of oral cancer with smokeless use is 4.2, about half of the risk from smoking (RR= 10-15). Mortality data from populations with sustained high frequency smokeless tobacco use do not support the mistaken prediction of an epidemic of oral cancer with increasing smokeless use. For example, Sweden has been the world's largest per capita consumer of smokeless tobacco throughout the 20th century, and no oral cancer epidemic has resulted. On the contrary, a retrospective study of 200,000 male snuff dippers in Sweden found only one case of oral cancer per year. This is in marked contrast to most other European countries where smokeless use is essentially nonexistent and where increases in oral cancer mortality have mirrored earlier increases in cigarette consumption.

    Recommending a switch from cigarette smoking to smokeless tobacco has elicited ethical concerns from some anti-tobacco activists. It is important to remember that recommendations from health professionals almost always have a measurable risk/benefit ratio. For example, radiation and chemotherapy are standard cancer treatment options, even though they present risks, some as severe as the development of a second cancer. The same principle applies to strategies in preventative medicine. For example, tamoxifen, an estrogen receptor antagonist, is under study by the National Cancer Institute as a preventive measure for primary breast cancer in high risk patients. While tamoxifen may reduce the risk of developing breast cancer, it increases ( by 7.5-fold) the risk of developing uterine cancer. However, the NCI considers the risk/benefit ratio low enough to continue the study. Smokeless tobacco is an excellent risk-reduction strategy because it reduces the smoker's risk for all tobacco-related illnesses and produces no new risks.

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    Cool. Thanks for the info. I told my dentist that I was switching to snus and I think he had zero idea of what I was talking about. He began telling me about all the increased risks of oral cancer, disfigurement, etc. I have no doubt he was thinking of typical American snuff. Real snus is nowhere to be found here in Kansas! I HAVE noticed some slight changes in my lip tissue, little bumps and some rawness, but that's probably because I'm a relatively new user, right? In any case I plan to continue. I love it!

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    it goes away, shove anything in your lip for a while, and you'll notice tenderness for a period..

    hell, i pierced my tongue and it swelled up and hurt for 2 weeks.

    i'm two weeks in and have a large Goat Rape No2 in right now and it's just fine.

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    I think most, if not all of this cancer scare is theoretical hype. People use moist dip and chew by the truckloads in the US, and if it was so bad, you'd see cases of it all the time, and it'd be banned. All I ever see it pics of 1 guy, just 1, and who knows what his history and health was, and what all he used, and also, I read smokers have a higher rate, or probability of it than users of smokeless.

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    well, my step-uncle had half of his jaw removed due to cancer, it was on the same side he perpetually kept a large wad of chew...

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    Well, that's something. How old was he when it happened? Did he smoke too?

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    I have a sore throat today, only on one side, and am worried that I have oral cancer, LOL. I know better, but still scary!

    I hope it is just seasonal sickness. I have body aches too, only on the one side of my body, I think that is odd.

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    Welcome to Snuson proko7

    As others have said, Snus has been studied for 30 years in Sweden and there is no risk of oral cancer ever found. The only increased cancer risk with snus (as with all tobacco products) is you will double your risk for Pancreatic cancer. From 4 in 100,000 to 8 in 100,000. I am comfortable with that risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagedil
    Welcome to Snuson proko7

    As others have said, Snus has been studied for 30 years in Sweden and there is no risk of oral cancer ever found. The only increased cancer risk with snus (as with all tobacco products) is you will double your risk for Pancreatic cancer. From 4 in 100,000 to 8 in 100,000. I am comfortable with that risk.
    Also they have been using snus in Sweden for over 200 years.

    And if you were a smoker, smoker's have a 14 in 100,000 chance (that's pack a day, I was 2). So I cut my risk by about 3 times.

    CG

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    Quote Originally Posted by sagedil
    Welcome to Snuson proko7

    As others have said, Snus has been studied for 30 years in Sweden and there is no risk of oral cancer ever found. The only increased cancer risk with snus (as with all tobacco products) is you will double your risk for Pancreatic cancer. From 4 in 100,000 to 8 in 100,000. I am comfortable with that risk.
    I have seen this research sooo many times and each time I think to myself...if snus users SPIT rather than SWALLOW the juices, wouldn't the extremely small risk of pancreatic cancer nearly disappear??? Not saying that I would ever spit, this is the only reason I use snus. I love swallowing! I'll leave it at that...

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    It's the nicotine giving you an insulin response that raises the risk of pancreatic cancer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Premium Parrots
    I really needed your comment Desi. Tonight when I dream about you again it will add just the right finish to my fantasy. :lol:
    This coming from *almost* anyone else would freak me out. But from you PP, I take this as a compliment.

    PS - Baker - When it comes down to it, I think most women would rather swallow than spit. *Still speaking of oral tobacco here*

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    We can always depend on PP posting what the rest of us are thinking. :wink:

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    Bad girls spit
    Good girls swallow
    Showoffs gargle :lol:

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself when reading this thread, hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheilalynn
    Bad girls spit
    Good girls swallow
    Showoffs gargle :lol:

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself when reading this thread, hehe
    WoWee!

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    Spitting is for sissys....not for big girls :wink:

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    I knew there was a reason I liked you deeanne59 :wink:

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